Too much lift off oversteer?

Hi,

Since the last big update I can't use the gt3 merc in mp because after the first lap, the lift off oversteer would result in an unrecorvable spin. So, I started using the McLaren. NP.

Since the last mini update, now the McLaren is doing it. Unraceable for me.

I've deleted tuning setups......do I need to do more?

1 lap is OK.....default setup. After that its just a matter of time. And, guys that I normally beat, don't have this problem it seems.


Heeeeeelllllllppppp!

 

Hi,
Tgx for the response.
Wasn't the McLaren always like that? Rear tire heat? Been racing it awhile.
And the merc ......one day it was fine...then I couldn't do 3 laps w/o spinning.
I'm thinking some things fkn wrong. Something like this has happened to me b4. I was the only one...it seemed... That was down 100 HP or so when lobbies had more than 18 ppl.
Tried everything....even reinstalll...no go. Then one day...boom back to normal.

This is really fkn frustrating. Sorry.

 

What Crimson said. Tad bit of front BB and heavier cooling of rear brakes tends to cure those issues for me. Whenever I see the tire temperature deltas climbing closer to 10°C between front and rear, my rears get very squirrelly. Getting those temps closer really helps.

 

Hi,
Thanks for the response.
I'm mainly talking about default setup. In mp there are many lobbies w default setups.
And, I thought that when tires are green then temps should be OK. Am I wrong in thinking that?

 

Hi,

I learned about the importance of temperature differentials for grip after reading this post from @Ettore. Not just keeping the tires “in the green zone”, but also ensuring there is not much difference in their respective temps. After I started monitoring them more closely, cornering has become a lot more predictable for me. BB and brake cooling are simple tools you can use, but in the absence of a way to set them up you might need to adjust the brake pressure, or check if you are locking your tires too much.

Understanding tire (tyre) pressures

 

I've been using the McLaren GT3 for a while, even using my custom setup it feels like after the latest update it slides more even with TC and it's less stable under braking even with ABS. In my last race I struggled the entire race time to keep the car on track.

Obviously part of the problem is the AMS2 controller filters that cause input delay, but some of the changes made the game less fun to drive for me That's why atm I prefer to drive GT3's in ACC, I've been doing races with the same car/track combos in both games and in ACC cars feel more intuitive and predictable.

 

Yeah @LugNut , your not alone, McLaren has always been slippery but even more for me after the update, on Redbull ring nothing I can do to stop the rear from sliding. Made me question my self... Still don't know if it's me or the car.

 

Hi,

Sweeter words were never spoken Crimson! And maybe take a look at the merc also? It was where I first encountered this phenomenon about 2 months ago. Tho it doesnt seem like everybody experiences it.. The merc used to be my fav gt3.
Thank you for your interest and effort.

Edit @Enagee ...thx for your input. And dam that's a nice rig u have in your SIG. And I'm sitting here with my DrivingForcePro on my lap ^^

 

Can't really I say I've noticed any of the things complained here. I can drive the 720S without TC or ABS just fine and the temps remain in check. Many online lobbies seem to love using clear weather in the middle of summer (causing 50 C track temps) and fixed setups, maybe that causes it? Or people are driving with a controller and scrubbing the hell out of their tyres.

 

Hi,

Thank God its not just me
When the issue first raised its head I:
More front BB
Opened brake vents to 100
Reduced coast rear end
Softened rear an
More wing
Didn't really help
The thing is w default setup its now a 5 wing so in those lobbies that are default only my issue is magnified.
And,lastly, my issue happens with no brake input....just push a hair in a sweeper and its start to rotate ..a lil counter steer minimal throttle input....facing backwards.
You know, I used to drive the merc a lot with no tc or abs to avoid the"unmanageable spin"
But 2 updates ago even that stopped working for me. So I went to the McLaren until.....well you know

 

It's the controller people. Look at his video. He's using a controller. I really wish they wouldn't tame the cars for the controller crowd, but it is what it is.

 

How much engine braking did you have/set? I found that I spun the car due to the level of engine braking. So I set it to 0 and didn't spin (and then tried to increase it to a level that was good to me).

 

What's the logic behind these settings? Engine braking 0 is full and engine brake level 10 (?) is no engine braking? .

 

The logic is that instead of the setting increasing engine braking the higher the value, it is increasing the amount of throttle opening (when off-throttle) the higher the value. This means 0 lets the throttle opening completely close, thus giving maximum engine braking and 9 gives a high amount of throttle opening, thus minimising engine braking.

It's not incorrect per se but it can be confusing if you think the setting is about engine braking instead of throttle opening.