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Automobilista 2 October 2022 Development Update

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - News & Announcements' started by Renato Simioni, Oct 28, 2022.

  1. bobbie424242

    bobbie424242 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Good guy Paul Richard ! Pierre is a better actor though :rolleyes:.
     
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  2. Roar McRipHelmet

    Roar McRipHelmet Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hot take: If Paul Ricard was situated in a forest (like old Hockenheim) or a serene valley (like Mugello), a lot more people would love it. It's the large tarmac runoff with the jarring color paint as well as the flat surrounding landscape that reminds people a bit too much of a parking lot that makes so many people dislike it.

    (but even in perfect surroundings, Paul Ricard wouldn't be my favorite track)
     
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  3. Dylan Hale

    Dylan Hale Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Its not even that. I get to a corner, (thats actually a intersection of like 3 corners,) and have no idea which one is the right one to take until I get there. And the after practicing for hours and hours, you do a race, and then the next day, maybe your along a different game? Boom, new layout. You look like a idiot, as you take (or blow through) the wrong chicane.

    Also, am a stupid CART and Champcar loving 'Merican, so I'll take a city track over Paul Ricard anyday...
     
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  4. WALLACE ALMEIDA MARINHO

    WALLACE ALMEIDA MARINHO Active Member

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    I'm a big fan of Paul Richard the track is perfect and beautiful
     
  5. WALLACE ALMEIDA MARINHO

    WALLACE ALMEIDA MARINHO Active Member

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    The same ones that criticize Paul Richard are the same ones that criticize Yas Marina, Accept the new era of the circuits, yes they are easier but there is much more safety for the pilots. You don't want another dead pilot, that's why these circuits are becoming like this precisely for the safety and integrity of pilots who are also human.
     
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  6. Roy Niessink

    Roy Niessink Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Honestly mate, there is really no need to dedicate 5 or 6 posts on how much you love the track
     
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  7. WALLACE ALMEIDA MARINHO

    WALLACE ALMEIDA MARINHO Active Member

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    It would be good if they did what they did in Paul and Yas Marina in all the circuits, removing the grass and laying asphalt, sure thing, the safety of the pilots in the first place.
     
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  8. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence Administrator Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Paul Ricard is a good hotlap and test track IMO, you really can get the most info out of a car and its quirks. For racing it's kinda..."mhmm meh". :D

    And yes please avoid 5 posts about the same thing each after another.
     
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  9. Bizarre Formula

    Bizarre Formula Well-Known Member

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    It would be good if they removed both from F1 and brought back any number of better tracks like Sepang for example; a perfectly safe track that doesn't look like it was the location of a smurf genocide.
     
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  10. WALLACE ALMEIDA MARINHO

    WALLACE ALMEIDA MARINHO Active Member

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    I fully agree
     
  11. Bizarre Formula

    Bizarre Formula Well-Known Member

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    Damn, I write Portuguese really well. :D
     
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  12. fischhaltefolie

    fischhaltefolie Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    iirc Paul Riccard is from the 70's and kept it's layout largely
     
  13. Lucifer_sam

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    The asphalt really doesn't bother me, I get why it bothers others however. I find asphalt runoff over hated in all honesty, like it isn't perfect but nor is gravel. Obviously the solution is a mixture of both but too many people just blindly hate asphalt because it's not what they're used to
     
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  14. Lucifer_sam

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    I do however disagree greatly about Yas Marina. I don't blame Tilke, he made the best of a really rough situation, he had little to work with. However, the track (especially pre-2021 changes) is not very fun to race on outside of sector 1. It's a beautiful track, but it feels like an endless money pit. Very much prefer tracks like Jeddeh and Bahrain.
     
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  15. Dolph

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    I hate many of the asphalt run offs, like:

    Spa last corner
    Watkins Glen first corner
    Red Bull Ring first corner and the last corner complex

    You can just go wide and there is no punishment. In fact often even its faster to go wide.

    It creates an unfair situation in the sim, when some people abuse the limits and I try to stay on track. Some people even become experts on how exactly to run wide - what is the fastest wide line to take.
     
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  16. Gevatter

    Gevatter The James May of Simracing AMS2 Club Member

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    Well, you're wrong :p

    Before they started racing in the track again, it was a test track for many years, that's where the 300 layouts come from. And for that I agree it's actually a really good track like you said, but overall I find it flat and boring and disorienting.
     
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  17. Lucifer_sam

    Lucifer_sam Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Honestly you're missing the point why gravel is there to begin with. Gravel was never put there to punish drivers, it's for slowing down cars going off track. Often times it accomplishes that goal, but sometimes it doesn't and makes a situation worse (Sileverstone 2022 and Melbourne 2016 comes to mind).
    It's a saftey issue not a fairness issue. Racing is unfair, it's not fair that making a small mistake or someone pushing you wide can leave you beached on a gravel trap. The only way either of these problems can be solved is with better stewarding something a lot of racing series needs anyways.

    And remember, I said a mixture of both is the solution. I also said the main reason I don't see that happening is because people have a hatred towards asphalt (using the blind was too harsh on my end). I feel like you're proving that point here
     
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  18. Beezer215

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    Are we talking about Paul Ricard?
    Who's Richard? 200w.gif
     
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  19. WALLACE ALMEIDA MARINHO

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    It would be good if you took the grass and gravel off the tracks and put the asphalt for the safety and integrity of the drivers
     
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  20. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    Aren’t they going to put gravel on eau rouge and radillion? Sometimes they need gravel to mentally slow drivers down
     
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