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Camaro SS is broken

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Freeway, Aug 4, 2020.

  1. Avoletta1977

    Avoletta1977 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    This time I disagree.
    I can understand going sideways while cornering. It must do it and it is fully expected.
    Going SO sideways in straight line no, I can't accept it.
     
  2. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence Administrator Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Where do you disagree here? :D

    You have to actually drift it, to be fast, though, that's a bit more than expected sideways driving.

    The nervosity on straight line acceleration definetly is off-putting
     
  3. Avoletta1977

    Avoletta1977 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I disagree here...

    To me it is undriveable, as the Ultima or the Opala Old stock.
     
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  4. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence Administrator Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Ah okay. I would recommend to use low TC for now, it's the best way to increase drivability on straight line acceleration, yet.
    Damn i actually forgot to choose the word "most" for my ma(i)nsplaining(TM). :D
     
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  5. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence Administrator Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    In AMS2, to be fast you kick the rear out with a good chunk of throttle before the apex, when you actually even still on the brake yet and push it through the corner with countersteer and decent wheelspin, which results in a drift (not exaggerated), which gives you the turn-in, that is required to go through the corner quickly. Done too late and you shopping-trolley out of the corner.
     
  6. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    The one in my game drives just like the MT review quote ;)
     
  7. CrimsonEminence

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    What does the review say about straight line acceleration and brakes?

    The Camaro SS is indeed also one of my favourite cars in AMS2, because it's damn fun. But especially the weak brakes, high oversteer angle while quick cornering and the bad bite under straight line acceleration with these good tyres it should feature, i always get the impression, i need some suspension of disbelief.
     
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  8. Marc Collins

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    It (and the other mags) probably have stopping distances in the reviews (that we could compare in game). What I can say is that the Camaro in the game has "default" race car brakes that need to be warmed up to reach full bite. The real car is the opposite, with brakes that work just fine even when stone cold and eventually fade as they get too hot. This is another area that needs tweaking before the Street cars become more realistic.
     
  9. Freeway

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    It is not so much about the stopping distance as it is about the inability to stop hard in a straight line. Likewise it is not so much about the acceleration as it is about the ability to accelerate in a straight line. And, while the actual Camaro SS can drift, it certainly should NOT be the best way around a track. We need to be able to distinguish between what is fun and what is correct or accurate. This fantasy AMS2 Camaro SS may be fun, but it certainly is NOT correct NOR accurate in any substantial way. This fantasy AMS2 Camaro SS simply does NOT belong in racing software representing itself as a modern simulator. Perfectly appropriate in PC2 or Forza. But, not here... not by a long shot.
     
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  10. Paul Cohen

    Paul Cohen Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    There's a simple fix here.

    Rename it to "Fantasy Street Muscle Car (with exaggerated driving characteristics)".

    Problem solved.
     
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  11. Avoletta1977

    Avoletta1977 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    As said in another topic the differential implementation seems to be quite broken and the road tires/supensions may exacerbate the effects of such a possible issue.

    Regarding braking, you can fix it just by moving forward the brake balance.

    In general rear tires are probably too weak longitudinally: together with bad brake force distribution and broken differential the 4 wheel coffin is served.
     
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  12. DaWorstPlaya

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    Curious, those of you drifting the Camaro SS successfully, are you playing to STM and TC ON?
     
  13. CrimsonEminence

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    Are you speaking of the sim car or real life?
    Regarding the sim car, TC on low and no other driving aids is the most enjoyable here, but you can also drive it with TC off, but it's less enjoyable and i think also a bit slower.
     
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    I was referring to the sim. I tend to drive all the cars on sims with TC and STM OFF, including the Camaro SS, which could explain why some people think it's OK and some people think it's broken.
     
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    Under straight line acceleration there is definitely a problem with both the SS & the Ultima GTR, it's like the diff suddenly breaks and sends all the power to just one wheel. Im sure Reiza will fix this but it's definitely a big problem, look forward to driving after they get fixed and if all goes well v much looking forward to the street cars pack dlc
     
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  16. Pixel

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    I've tried the car with TC on and off and it still unsettles immediately. A street car that drives like that would get sued out of existence.
     
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  17. Freeway

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    Totally agree. There is no excuse for leaving the AMS2 Camaro SS like this.
     
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  18. Pixel

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    I've tried the car with today's update and it's a bit better, but still not great.
     
  19. Avoletta1977

    Avoletta1977 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    No difference at all for me.
     
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  20. Mahjik

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    Make sure you delete any setups created before the updated (revert to default).
     

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