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AI Blue flag

Discussion in 'Automobilista - General Discussion' started by Philip00, Apr 11, 2016.

  1. Philip00

    Philip00 Member

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    Hi all!

    I'm realized that the AI still not repsect the blue flag and not let go cars who try to lap them. Is there a plan that fix this in the future?

    (sorry for my bad English)

    Philip
     
  2. Thiago Izequiel

    Thiago Izequiel Community Manager

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    Hi Philip. Could you please, describe a little more what the AI is doing or maybe show us a video about it? Also, let us know what level of AI are you running, car and track.
    Thank you!
     
  3. keith windsor

    keith windsor Active Member

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    OP is talking about the blue flag rule.
    When the leaders catch up with the back markers, a blue flag is shown to the backmarkers, telling them that they should not block the leaders, but should slow very slightly and allow them to pass. This is something that the rF engine in all it's forms, has never been able to do, & I'm not sure it is possible, but I agree with the OP, it would be fantastic if it was ever possible to include this in AMS or in the next game. It is the one major realism feature that is missing in offline racing.
     
  4. MarcG

    MarcG Active Member

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    That is incorrect, the RF2 AI slowdown and move slightly out the way when there is a blue flag, so it is possible and hopefully something Reiza can add in themselves.
     
  5. gongo

    gongo Dan Allongo

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    Except for the fact that AMS is using the rFactor 1 engine (gMotor 2) and *not* the rFactor 2 engine (gMotor 2.5). To my knowledge, ISI have only ever licensed the gMotor 2 engine to third parties for retail sims (I have no idea about other private/commercial/industrial applications) so it's correct to say that the rFactor engine in all its forms doesn't support it since gMotor 2 is the only one that's used for third party retail products at the moment.
    Besides, it wouldn't make any sense to talk about rFactor 2's gMotor 2.5 here since Reiza doesn't have any products using that engine.
     
  6. MarcG

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    I was responding to his quote about the rf engine, the whole ISI Motor (all parts) are a continuation of a continuous engine development program. Now that Reiza have the base from the rf1 version they can expand as they wish, which would include developing AI the way they want. Therefore creating better blue flag rules for AI is entirely possible as had been proven by ISI themselves.
     
  7. keith windsor

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    Well gongo is correct, I was not referring to rF2, I meant the rF1 engine and all it's various incarnations, which most certainly were not able to include the blue flag rule.

    Of course AMS and rF2 are different - Reiza are now allowed to re-write the code in AMS ( and obviously ISI have done so for rF2). None of the previous variations had such freedom.

    Hence why I then said I'm not sure it's possible but it would be fantastic if it could be included in AMS or the next game.
     
  8. Philip00

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    Maybe im wrong but i don't think it is so difficult o doit, just need another path line in track (Rfactor 1 has fast, inside outside i belive) so when AI are under béue flag should use outside path which i belive it's possible + lack of engine or mass penalty (like JR did with his plugin in RFactor 1). Single player is very important in my opinion and this could be fantastic, because avoid the blue flag rule can ruin all the gameplay with AI.

    (Sorry for my bad English)
     
  9. MarcG

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    Apologies for presuming incorrectly, not hard to do though ;)
    Anyway yeah, as before, Reiza have the tools so proper blue flag rules are possible, fingers crossed :)
     
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  10. Gleidson Silva Pereira

    Gleidson Silva Pereira New Member

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    The GTR2 uses the gmotor and AI respects the rules chosen for the race, not to mention that attacks and defends well in a dispute, that is, there is how to improve the AI because you've done something better to more than 10 years, I don't know why after GTR2 never made a decent AI.

    The ability to work that has already shown, REIZA was already to have THERE better than the current one, I hope they do it soon.
     
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  11. Philip00

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    I would love if we have some feedback from Automobilista that this feature is going to be include in Automobilista or not, i think this really need for single player community
     
  12. Philip00

    Philip00 Member

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    Is there any info about this?
     
  13. Craigbowie

    Craigbowie New Member

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    I played offline with the 1.4 update... found that lapped AI do slowdown on straights but dont move off the racing line...
    This tends to back up all the cars causing crashes as the faster cars trying to pass the lapped cars.
    Its better but needs more work.
    A lapped car should move off the racing line and slow down... this would really sort out the blueflag issue!
     
  14. Angel Of Attack

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    A lapped car should not off the racing line, jumping side to side wildly in a corner makes you less predictable thus much more dangerous.
    Of course you should give the room for the overtaking car if it's already on your side.
    It's the fast car's response to make a clean pass. And that's what AI lacking of for now.
     
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  15. Craigbowie

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    Found with the lastest update that the cars are behaving far better now, they slow and the faster cars overtake.... has breathed new life into the game!
     

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