Assessing Yearly Season Passes for AMS2 DLCs

How about also the option to join the beta club? Lost last time.

 

As a paddock member this won’t affect me personally even though I wish to have the chance to send you guys more cash for what you do. I think the yearly season pass is an excellent idea and makes DLC more approachable. But I think issues could arise still with expectations on due dates and specific content especially once having already paid, or issues on buying a pass with unclear release days and content. So it’s up to the studio regarding which they would rather deal with. It’s been done both ways successfully in other sims and games.

 

Hello,
Personally, I did not buy the season pass because I prefer to know a minimum of what I am buying. I don't fear the quality of Reiza's DLC but some elements interest me more than others. For example, I didn't buy the Supercars DLC because it's not my personal taste.
You mention the idea of giving some information on the content of the annual season pass, I think that could convince me to subscribe to it.
If you bring a new street circuit and a new oval circuit, take my money now.

 

Whatever you do with the passes, don't call it 2024 season pass, because you will struggle to meet deadlines and this will cause frustration in the community. Instead call it Season pass 3 or smth like that and outline the content to be launched and give a release range of 2024-2025. Then set an internal deadline of 31 December 2024 with the aim to produce Season pass 4 in 2025.

The best way to cause frustration is to over promise and under deliver.

The best way to increase customer satisfaction is to underpromise and over deliver. Only thing is the advance sales may suffer a bit.

 

All the content that I've received with the previous season pass has been amazing and it was great knowing new content coming out would just show up and I wouldn't have to deal with justifying another purchase. I'm all for more season passes as long as they offer a discount over buying the DLC individually. Thanks for all you the amazing content so far ♥️

Now to get the multiplayer bugs fixed, then all would be amazing!

 

I'm all about DLC and if it has competitive prices like RRE, ACC, AC for example!!! Yearly season pass seems like for me a "battle pass" there is so much of this in games now some suit it some don't but that's just me cause i play a slew of games.
End of the day it's up to you guys i love what you do so keep at it you'll make the right choice and most likely buy most DLC Merry Xmas and happy New Years

 

I abstain from voting since it does not affect me, but I have an opinion.

Not sure how banking works elsewhere in the world. I am a grown man with many ways to buy each DLC individually now. BUT until some years ago in my country, an international credit card was not so common among my friends. Not totally sure if it was because we were younger or because the world was less globalized (probably both).

At those times we asked someone who had a card to charge the steam wallet (or Blizzard's, Hearthstone was the big sucker in my group of friends ). It was cumbersome, so a package was really preferable for me at those times.

Perhaps the situation I mention is very rare nowadays, bit it was really a determinant thing in my bubble at some point.

 

I barely use 10% of the AMS2 content these days. The season pass brought 70% content like historic GP tracks, Prototypes, RX and formula cars that I don't use since I mainly want to recreate 90's DTM.
In the end it turned out I would have been better served with AMS2 and 2 premium tracks.
I got also burned by other games with Season pass offers.

I rather pick what I actually want instead of getting something that I don't want, but payed in advance.

 

Hi @Renato Simioni , in my opinion the only most suitable method for consumers is to divide it like this:
1 - create existing DLCs and sell them individually, giving users the opportunity to purchase only interested DLCs.
2 - at the end of the year or at the beginning of the following year, group together all the DLCs that were launched in that year, identifying it with the name SEASON PASS 2023 and so on, or changing the name to SEASON PASS 3, 4, 5 and so on, selling the package including all the DLCs of that period and perhaps giving some form of discount to encourage the purchase of even the DLCs that are less attractive to users
3 - those who purchase the individual DLCs and would like to purchase the SEASON PASS for that given year must have the possibility of being able to discount the SEASON PASS due to the individual DLCs previously purchased.

In my opinion it allows the user to choose which ones to purchase, but also to be able to decide on any SEASON PASS purchases of that given year or period at a discounted price, and to be able to reduce the price of some previously purchased DLC, making the user happier.
It is to the advantage of Team Reiza itself that future DLCs do not necessarily have to have tight deadlines, because they can be released in the following SEASON PASS period, for example the long-awaited "Le Mans DLC", launching it only when it is ready without having any worries either both on the user's side and on the Team's side.

 

I find the DLCs on offer confusing tbh. Pretty sure I've paid for some items twice in the past. Much simpler to buy each pack individually so I know what I'm paying for.

 

I also have nothing to gain, but I voted yes for those that wish to buy the season pass. Anyone wanting to buy individual dlc still can. I don't see how more choice can be a bad thing.

 

Adding season passes/packs wouldn't be a bad thing, but please make sure the descriptions are clear with what each pack holds, as with the old season pass there was a lot of confusion, and still is, and ofcourse have the seperate packs available, so everyone can decide what they want to do/buy

 

Yep. I'm still posting twice a week on Steam forum this message:

DLC
2020-2022 Season Pass
----- Premium Track Pack
----- ----- Hockenheim Pack
----- ----- Silverstone Pack
----- ----- Nürburgring Pack
----- ----- Spa-Francorchamps Pack
----- ----- Monza Pack
----- ----- Barcelona Pack
----- Premium Expansion Packs
----- ----- Racin' USA Full expansion Pack
----- ----- ----- Racin' USA Pack Pt1
----- ----- ----- Racin' USA Pack Pt2
----- ----- ----- Racin' USA Pack Pt3
----- ----- ----- Racin' USA Pack Pt4/bonus (not released yet)
----- ----- Brazilian Racing Legends Pack Pt1
----- ----- Historical Track Pack Pt1
----- ----- Supercars Pack Pt1
----- ----- Adrenaline Pack Pt1
----- ----- Adrenaline Pack Pt2 (not released yet)

Not part of any pass at the moment:
----- Historical Track Pack Pt2
----- Formula HiTech Pack
----- Circuit des 24 Heures du Mans (not released yet)
----- Endurance Pack Pt1 (not released yet)

 

Sounds much more transparent as it is now - at least as I see it.

ByTheWay: As I remember from Raceroom then if a new pack does include cars/tracks you allready own then the overlapping items are deducted when buying the new pack.

 

I would personally be there day zero for any pass that would fund reiza

BUT

May i have a tiny request? If you do decide on moving on with 2023 pass, could you please do it simultaneously with the release of le mans dlc? Buying le mans and endurance pack; only to later find out they're being offered as part of a season pass might be a slight bummer. I for one am currently eyeing hi-tech and historic dlcs but not enough to buy them instantly. Where as i'll buy le mans and endurance car pack the minute they drop. So if reiza launched 2023 season pass the same day as le mans dlc, i'd buy the 2023 pass, which would have formula cars and historic tracks alongside my fav content.

 

I prefer to buy bundles so I did not buy the historical pack, nor the hitech formula. But a 2023 season pass is a very, very good idea. Especially since I started the game with the 2020-2022 season pass.

 

I bought SP 20/22 on discount, as I was not sure where AMS2 development would go. Now that I'm more confident I would definitely appreciate a SP23 to get everything in a single option.

 

I see your posts on Steam, they're definitely helpful, and I agree descriptions for DLCs could be better.

@Renato Simioni
I'm a AMS2 club member so I'll get all DLCs, but for people who aren't club members and own the 2020-2022 season pass I bet they're wondering when they'll get Racin' USA pt4 & Adrenaline pt2 (both are part of the 2020-2022 season pass), maybe that's something that needs to be resolved before any talks of another season pass.
Personally I like the idea of giving players the option of buying another season pass but I think replacing some DLC packs with DLC bundles would be better (eg: replace things such as 2020-2022 season pass, Premium track pack, Premium expansion packs, Racin' USA full expansion pack with bundles that contain the respective DLCs). Then do the same for 2023 and 2024 season passes. Imo that might make it easier for players to understand exactly what they are getting and avoid the constant threads on Steam of people asking what is included in the DLC packs.