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VR Performance Expectations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Holi, Jul 28, 2019.

  1. Holi

    Holi New Member Reiza Backer

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    I joined the early backing campaign because well I really like AMS but I haven't played it since I got a VR setup and well, Project Cars 2 VR performance is kind of terrible on my system at least (to the point of causing quite severe VR sickness) and I was wondering if you guys are able to tame the beast that is the PC2 engine and get it running smother for people like me with a weak stomach?
     
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    FeltHat Active Member Reiza Backer

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    Whats your system? In most cases i hear praises for pc2 in terms of vr/vr performance. From what we know so far you should expect similar performance to pc2 in or out of vr.
     
  3. ONA FLYER

    ONA FLYER New Member Reiza Backer

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    PC2 is easily the best looking and running game in VR on my setup. Looks incredible and smooth as silk.

    I4790k and 1080ti,. Nothing special.
     
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  4. Holi

    Holi New Member Reiza Backer

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    I'm on a i7 4790k and a Vega 56 and I'd argue PC2 is a horrible experience :) At least it runs much much much better than ACC but compared to the rest of the simulators out there it's fairly close to unplayable

    Congrats on having spent a lot more money on your rig than I have ONA FLYER your parents must be proud however that actually doesn't pertain at all to my query though

    Edit. I'm not gonna go into a fanboy argument or anything, this is my subjective experience of how that particular simulator performs on my system and I've spent literally hours trying out settings etc to no avail, my question is only regarding if performance/optimizations etc is part of the improvements that supposedly has been made to the engine or if I'm going to have to chose between suffering VR sickness or play something that runs better for me (yes I'm selfish like this but I'm fairly sure there are people with weaker systems also interested to know)
     
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  5. MarcG

    MarcG Active Member Reiza Backer

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    I only tried the Pcars2 Demo (albeit a long time ago) and the VR experience was very good on my lowly GTX970 with i5-3570k CPU, smooth and fluid with no major stutters (once I'd lowered the settings of course).

    I've heard nothing but praise for the MADNESS Engines VR implementation so AMS2 VR performances worries me not, maybe you're just unlucky @Holi but as ever the proof is in the pudding so all you can do it await the Beta/1st Release of AMS2 and then see for yourself :)
     
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  6. Ernie

    Ernie Active Member Reiza Backer

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    That's quite strange. I'm on a slightly overclocked i7 6700k, which should be only about 5-10% faster than your CPU. And your Vega56 should be about 10-20% faster than my Nvidia 980Ti.

    PC2 runs really good in VR on my end. With lowered graphics settings, of course. So it should run quite good on your system as well, i guess.

    All i can say is, that PC2 performs surprisingly good in VR, considering its graphical quality.
     
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  7. Holi

    Holi New Member Reiza Backer

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    They deserve praise for menu navigation and stuff like that and I hope AMS 2 pick up some inspiration from that tbh, it's the rest that concerns me, and yeah seems I'll just have to wait for a build and enjoy smooth racing in the other sims until then.
     
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    ONA FLYER New Member Reiza Backer

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    Grow up Holi and come back when your a mature woman/man
     
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  9. Neawoulf

    Neawoulf Advanced Casual Racer Reiza Backer

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    Since most of Reizas 3d models are made for an older engine i think the VR performance will be quite good. Apart from that PC2 runs quite good on my old GTX 1070 with an Oculus Rift CV1. I think AMS 2 will run better. PC2 has many issues, VR support isn't one of them (except for some weird bugs with the HUD configuration).
     
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  10. MrGold

    MrGold New Member Reiza Backer

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    Depends on the game and the 980ti you have but a vega 56 is hardly an upgrade in some cases. PCars 2 might be one of those. I have similar system tp yours (until 2070 super arrives) and PCARS2 runs really well.

    @Holi what settings are you trying to run? You should be able to comfortably run medium/high settings with 1.25 SS. Are you using Oculus API or SteamVR? Is performance similar in both?
     
  11. Holi

    Holi New Member Reiza Backer

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    I'm on WMR (which means Steam VR) and the performance is fairly similar from everything on low 1 SS up to mid/high settings at 2 SS, biggest difference is how much the fan spins up on the card, I haven't been doing a lot of testing for about a year though, I just remember the framerate being fairly similar doing fairly large quality adjustments either way and checking my loads/framerate with FPSVR. The performance is worse on the city tracks, pretty much anywhere there's a lot of infrastructure on screen, like going through the town part of Bannochbrae or entire South Beech Street circuit or Dirtfish, all of those are pretty bad, BRNO or Mount Fuji I get better performance at.

    I'm not really interested in trying to solve PC2 performance issues anymore, I'm just hoping I won't have the same experience with AMS 2.
     
  12. tlsmikey

    tlsmikey Member Reiza Backer

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    VR performance was quite good in pc2 and the lighting was exceptional. The only drawback I saw was shadow popping on trees. Once you see it, you’ll notice it forever but in the big picture it’s a small issue.
     
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  13. MrGold

    MrGold New Member Reiza Backer

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    You might want to give it another go. Could've been a driver issue.
     
  14. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Well-Known Member Reiza Backer

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    That and the AA on shadows kicking-in too late are also easily visible on non-VR screens.
     
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    jpmmuc New Member Reiza Backer

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    As I got my Valve Index I tested PC2 in VR and this is very impressive. Ligthing, sharpness (with the sharpness setting introduced in one of the later patches) and the whole graphic experience.
    So my hopes are high for good performance from AMS 2 in VR.

    ACC is going the other way and the VR performance is going down, so AMS 2 is now what I'm waiting for. In the meantime I will have a lot of fun with DR2 in VR.
     
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    2ndLastJedi Active Member Reiza Backer

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    Seems kind of uncalled for and a bit precious! You must be fun to hang out with, or maybe that's the problem, you don't get to hang out with actual people.
     

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