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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi Karsten. Your latest .43 FFB file, for me, lacks a lot of the loading up force in cornering, so just to get things clear in my head, if I would like the same centre but higher cornering force, I adjust Gain up and LFB down, Is that correct? How much would I adjust it at a time? 1 up and 1 down to start with? Thanks.
     
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  2. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hey Michael,

    Yes, exactly. But they are not 1 to 1, so it takes a few iterations. I would start by adjusting at larger scale first like intervals og 5 on each or so.
    Bear in mind there is a detection of forces going on the first few corners so only adjust after a few fast cornerings.
    This is one thing I hope Reiza can work with us to solve.

    We have a new version ready, done yesterday that will require you to do some of this again, just FYI.
     
  3. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks. I'll wait for the new version and start from there.
     
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  4. Paul Greenwood

    Paul Greenwood New Member

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    Forgive my naivety here. I'm trying to understand what the different custom profiles do and what the differences are. I have a DD1 and bit of a nooby here. Layman's terms would greatly help :)
     
  5. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Some custom files add a little sugar(effects) on top of the old rack from Reiza.
    More advanced custom files, such as Heavy Messing and Silver Raw modify the Rack force as well, to make it feel better, sometimes even replace it partly or fully and make it possible to adjust way more.
    The reason AMS2 custom files started out was mostly to add better scrub, but quickly developed to improve the Rack that some of us felt lacking. Default still, imo, feel very "wrong" compared to any car I ever drove. That's why Silver Rack is going the full stretch, to make it feel car-like.
    In that process a myriad of adjustment possibilities have been added.

    I hope this helps.
     
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  6. Paul Greenwood

    Paul Greenwood New Member

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    Thanks for the explanation! I now understand. I like to Drive GT1 cars. Should I use the silver Rack?
     
  7. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Only you can decide.
    But if you're happy using default I see no reason to complicate life by an extra addiction! 8)
     
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  8. GTR886

    GTR886 New Member

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    Thanks for the update Karsten! Thank you so much on helping the community for the ultimate FFB!
     
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  9. Chip

    Chip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Karsten Hvidberg Was there a new file posted? It looks like Ver .43 is still the latest, but I could have sworn I saw you post something about another new file and improvements related to high downforce cars. Can't find the post now, so maybe it was edited?
     
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  10. Paul Garrett

    Paul Garrett Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I just tried version 43 for SC2 modded by Panos and am blown away. It feels like I can feel the tires better than I have in any other game. And I just set my own PBs at both Spa and the Nordschleife in the Porsche GT3 R. Thank you all so much for all the work you put into this.
     
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  11. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hey Chip,
    The file is 99.9% ready, but still didn't have the time today to actually put it together and make a final edit and post.
    So unf. will have to happen tomorrow, sorry.
     
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  12. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    V44 is posted.

    * @Panos Schoino Adjusted file for improved low downforce vehicle experience.
    * Speed contributes more to the feel by new value "velocity_scale".
    * Adjusted texture slightly less smooth.

    Unfortunately didn't find the time to fix the damping better, so will be a later version for that, so still hold on to your steering wheel depending on car & settings :)

    With this file, low downforce cars, like the Caterham, now feel more as you would imagine they do irl, as you drive faster.

    https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/silver-raw-6-6-5-44-zip.12388/
     
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  13. Karl Rawstrone

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    Do we know if there are equivalent variables in HeavyMessing?
     
  14. Karl Rawstrone

    Karl Rawstrone New Member

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    Do we know if there are equivalent variables in HeavyMessing?
     
  15. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Yes, they are:

    (micro_details 0.5)
    (macro_details 0.3)

    Karl, if you prefer HM for your wheel base, then please do post settings & wheel base type for me here or in a direct PM, so we can put in the 1st post.
     
  16. Kuku Maddog

    Kuku Maddog Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    seems like drifter tuned lol, loves to entice sideways action. gets quite light when sliding etc.

    Im curious why the drop in master rack from 1.55 to 1.20.
    how much importance to overall is it, because i tried putting it back to my .43 scales for all settings apart from new velocity and it feels a bit more informative of overall balance. and somehow makes it easier to catch wild slides , but also feel like its loosing grip abruptly.
     
  17. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    The reason for lower master_rack is that forces now naturally go up with speed as well, so they will rise more than earlier.
    That is the only major change here, so there should not be any other difference when it comes to the rack force.

    But this is the first iteration of this addition, so we prob. do want to adjust things slightly for next revision. Also it will be interesting to find the values that work well across wheel bases & the different ways the LFB is set up.

    Actually this might be the issue, I think I will need to change some things to make it work better in combination with higher LFB.
    Will post you when I know a little more. Busy at work :)

    Edit: Seems OK as is. We will iterate to adjust values if required.
     
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  18. Kuku Maddog

    Kuku Maddog Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    ok i will put it back,
    Getting a big variation in feels between different cars.
     
  19. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Ok, took a quick glance, will post an updated version later, better for high LFB.
     
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  20. Wayne Whitmore

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    Wrong thread
     

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