Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the 1.3 is making the brake feel slightly less at first.
    The 4 makes it so we relax this brake feel very fast when losing grip.

    Maybe it's the "4" that you want to lower to 3 or even 2. Please post back what you find, as I think these lines are up for change in 4.2.
     
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  2. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Michael, when you say no feel when turning, do you mean your ffb is completely dead other than effects?
     
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    alink Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi,
    I have a Thrustmaster T150 wheel and use custom FFB setting ingame.
    With some cars I have soft-lock (i.e. Caterham), with others not (i.e. GT4 McLaren).
    Is soft-lock car depending or how to fix that?
     
  4. Shadak

    Shadak Active Member

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    Just tried Stock cars on my fanatec and its actually excellent, much better than last year. The tyres load quite fast and Im almost tempted to say the turning forces and tyres feel better than GT cars :)
     
  5. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hey Marinus,

    I just am under water, so the time I spend these days is on the file only and then a post in the thread.
    I also intend to assemble a zip file with all the latest great tunes, but time gets in my way...
    I might have an idea that can help though...
     
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  6. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    No not completely dead, just very weak.
     
  7. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    It sounds really weird.. What settings?
     
  8. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I changed the lines you said,
    (slip_crossover_line2_start_y 0.25) down to 0.21
    (brake_coef 1.3) down to 1.2
    and brake_feel (power grip_fl 4) Down to 3.
    All feels good now. And did a few PB's. Thank you.
     
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  9. Sting Ray

    Sting Ray Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Kuku - as a fellow Thrustmaster user (albeit the entry TMX) are there any tweaks to help convey rear slip, as currently i find it impossible to correct spins in low speed corners. Interestingly Sim Racing Corners review today of the TMX (
    ) actually mentions the same thing, and in comments he suggests that these low end wheels simply cannot provide the necessary feedback. Maybe as a workaround i will try fiddling with Simvibe and see if rear slip can generate some shaking in the basshaker thingy
     
  10. Efe7to

    Efe7to New Member

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    4.1 with the changes by Michael is F A N T A S T I C on my T300, I had toned down the kerbs a bit too.
    Last car i tested was the M1 procar at Oulton park. I had a big smile from start to finish:). Could just drive and drive and enjoy this combo (have 2 tranducers - front/back - too for various effects) again and again, but had to leave a comment and thank all that made this file possible. Thank you.
     
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  11. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    From my short experience ( thankfully) with a tmx is they feel quite different to a T300/tx.
    It could be that you are correct about wheel not being capable of low force’s.
    and it could also be that it’s just the low speed corner issue that is constantly being raised . Which is a physics/ differential problem.
    I would suggest a g290 tune by stakanov would be more relevant to a TMX than any other.
     
  12. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    NAME: Silver Raw - rFuktor 4.1 - Momentum Rack 6.1 - Tuned by Stakanov for LowEnd Wheels and Logitech

    In game setting select "Custom" with this starting value for Logitech:
    GAIN 80* - LFB (CenterFull) 75 - FX 70 - DP (PowerSteering) 65.
    *Then, in the car setting, use +/- % of Gain for car to taste!!!


    - Tighten ON (now down on value of Peter Stefani) + High values of GAIN and LFB (now CenterFull), then (center_relax 0.25);
    - (exaggerate_front_load_feel 0.20)
    - (exaggerate_front_load_feel_hi_df 0.10)
    - (slip_crossover_line2_start_y 0.21) ----> (Michael Enright)
    - (damping 0.06)
    - (accel_feel 0.8)
    - (brake_feel 1.6)
    - (front_drive_torque_feel 0.8)
    - (bump_feel_follow_weight 0.27)
    - (brake_feel_follow_weight 0.33)
    - (brake_coef 1.2)-----------------------------> (Michael Enright)

    - (force_scale (* 1.8 (/ 0.22 centering)))

    I didn't benefit from editing this line of code...
    brake_feel (power grip_fl 4) Down to 3 ----------> then 4 original 4.1 for me is best.

    Which is the best between 3.8 (3.9Alpha3) and this 4.1???
    I don't know, both great, perhaps the latter has more detail on the tire!!
     
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  13. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Nice investigation work Michael.
    I concur , these values work very well and make it feel more familiar.

    I haven’t spent much time with file yet but this is an encouraging adjustment.
     
  14. Carmine Carpentiero

    Carmine Carpentiero New Member

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    thanks for the reply, i will try some file case, but i have no idea how to modify the file and what you can get, if there is a guide i will gladly read it
     
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  15. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Yes, I agree about the kerbs surface scale. I too had to turn them down. What did you drop yours to? My is on 2.0 now.
     
  16. Lars Mars

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    Thanks
    @Stakanov
    I always lower your FX settings as I have some bass shakers and most of the fx are also there.
     
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  17. Efe7to

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    Mine is on 2.0 too. With the original value the kerbs were scary and muted other effects.
     
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  18. Steve Redfox

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    Hi there. I am kinda late to the show but I coming from rfactor1+2, GTR2, AC, ACC and Raceroom, I want to express my sincere thanks to all of you who made this setup possible. Chapeau to you. I tested the T500 File with my TS-XW + TM Loadcell pedals and have to say, thast I am very impressed. Never have curbs felt so realistic and do what they are supposed to do....Also feeling of the road surface, the Steering, the tyres etc...I checked it with GTR, GTR3 and F10V on Nuerburgring GP ( still one of my favourites due to Michele's S , haha ) and was "blasted". I have to make a direct comparison with rFactor2 which offered the most realist feeling for Formula cars so far and ACC for GTR3 cars, but I think, AMS2 with your FFB improvements ( and the right equipment ) matches both of them. I was tweaking R3E quite alot on my own within it's boundaries, but I had already a near perfect Logitechfile from my old GTR2 days ( which gave GTR2 quite a realistic feeling as well 15 years ago) and that gave me some guidance. However, I am still not at the level you guys provided here for AMS2 !! Great Job ! Edit says : Reiza should integrate these setting as "Standard". As this would greatly improve their products quality and makes it an even more serious sim, the should honor your work with a small royalty fee...;-)
     
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  19. Efe7to

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    Did you test the file from post #2799? Try that it's the latest version. I'll attach my file modified a bit from the latest v4.1 for my T300.
     

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    Could anyone with a DD1 or 2 possibly give me an idea of their settings, both Fanalab and in-game/file with the latest 4.1? A friend of mine has just got a DD2 and I’ve directed him to that file, but I can’t help him with the settings for the DD2 as I don’t have one myself. Thanks!
     
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