Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    LogitechHUB: Last version with default setting 900° and sensitivity to 50

    IN GAME:
    900° All deadzone to 0 and sensitivity to 50 except the throttle on 30

    FILE FFB:
    NAME: Silver Raw - rFuktor 4.5 Exp4 - Momentum Rack 6.1 - Tuned by Stakanov for LowEnd Wheels and Logitech (G920 and G923/G29/G27/G25/DFGT) (Date 06/06/2021)

    In game setting select "Custom" with this starting value for Logitech:
    GAIN 90* - LFB 80 - FX 65 - DP (PowerSteering) 80.
    *Then, in the car setting, use +/- % of Gain for car to taste!!!


    With these lines disabled there are no wrong values and no display flickerin in the telemetry hud:

    # (gain (+ gain (* lfb_slider (- 1 gain))))
    # (damping_slider (+ damping_slider (* lfb_slider (- 1 damping_slider))))

    DD owners do not notice the difference because they use very low LFB values between 0-10 and therefore do not change much the values of GAIN and DP (Power Steering)

    After disabling two lines of code, I twisted the values of the cursors in the game in order to obtain almost an identical result of the original file with the 2 lines of code activated and then I proceeded to modify the remaining values as usual according to my tastes , here is the file ... good evening to everyone and thanks as always to Karsten & Co!!!! :)
     

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  2. Chris Horsley

    Chris Horsley New Member

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    see True Drive Settings in attached image works well with Default and rFuktor4.4
     

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  3. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Well I don’t recall asking you for your personal opinion on what I do...

    before update I hadn’t had to tweak for quite some time. All I’ve done is try out newer experiments and passed on my feedback because that’s how these files become what they are.
    My tune hadn’t changed , and I would rather not have too, but default just doesn’t work on my wheel, it’s too rattling and bumpy no matter what I do.

    and it’s been mentioned by others that the strength of details were lower since update and that’s purely down to less exaggerated physics. , so without altering the main processes of file, but just increases in core strength of master effects and key values , feeling has been restored.
    It doesn’t matter if physics are better or worse , the point is being able to feel it. So think of it as a post update patch.

    I could keep this to myself, but I choose to share it , because someone may find it useful, if you don’t like it, don’t use it ... it’s not that hard .
     
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  4. Enagee

    Enagee jim joneZ AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks, Chris. What are your in-game settings? I already sent him rFutok 4.5 ..
     
  5. Chris Horsley

    Chris Horsley New Member

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    Gain 35
    Fx 35
    Damping 10
    LFB 0
     
  6. Tangogulf

    Tangogulf New Member

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    i want to thank you guys for the work you put into this. I just put in your 4.5 and it has changed the game for me. Do you have a donation site?
     
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  7. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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  8. ThunderChief

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    We have almost identical hardware (I use HP G2) - would you mind sharing your SC2 TD settings and also your VR settings as I am struggling to get good performance in AMS2 without inducing shimmering and artifacts (2080 Ti / i9900). Thanks!
     
  9. Raceracerace

    Raceracerace Active Member

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    Oh! Nonsense! You're a forum hog and a bore. You don't seem to have a job or much else going on in your life. Every second post is literally you and your own selfish attitude trying to autistically tune minute things.

    I'm trying to be good to you. You like the game so much. Take a good look at yourself, man, and BUY a DD wheel already. Your wheel is junk. You know it's true. What you're doing now is pretty dumb. I'm doing this for your own good.

    Your obsession has been going for months now almost daily it seems. Consider these words. You can't be pleased. It's your wheel it's not in good shape.

    I know this is true because of the ten percent of ten percent rule on large sample and small sample. 200 players a day, means 10% take it to a higher level.

    Out of those 20 people you are obsessed.
     
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  10. bandqit

    bandqit Active Member

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    @Dave Stephenson Could we please get a ban for this person?
     
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  11. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Wtf

    forum hog an a bore ?.

    It would take me ten posts to reach your long winded word counts of one post, that ramble on an on without making much sense or having any meaningful technical feedback other than how you think you’re better than everyone else and we are all wrong.

    talk about the pot calling the kettle out.

    These custom files have been a long term project by Karsten and co, and if you don’t want to be part of it, then don’t abuse or benefit from the work of others who have helped , and go rant about something else your the best at.
    How have you contributed again ?
     
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  12. Shriukan

    Shriukan Touristenfahrten Community AMS2 Club Member

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    Time to put him in your ignore list, mate. It's not worth it. Report and move on. This thread will quickly return to the usual, peaceful and wholesome community work it has been so far.
     
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  13. Lanius1984

    Lanius1984 New Member

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    A quick newbie question. I'm just installing the game and getting the custom files ready to go and I'm seeing quite a bit of variance in the in-game settings suggestions.

    Usually with my G29 in other games I'm turning off (or at least right down) any canned effects etc, so it's strange to see the FX setting always so high - is this not the same as other games where it'll just make my G29 a baby's rattle toy?

    Also, this post was the first that I've seen recommending the DP setting to be anything other than 0 when look at G29 specific settings... I see the custom file makes this setting control power steering, but what is this actually doing to the feel, and why do many others seem to have this set to 0?
     
  14. Shadak

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    FX here is things like road detail/curbs etc. , so its not artifical per se.

    DP is powersteering yes, so its kind of reversed of damping. When you increase this, it evens out the low and top end of the torque applied. As an example, at 0 you will get 10% at 0 degrees steering and 100% torque at, say, 90 degrees. At powersteering slider 50, you will get 10% at 0 degrees still but only 50% at 90 degrees steering angle. (it might reduce the overall gain too so just increase the gain slider afterwards)

    Basically reduces the top end torque, I use it on a DD wheel because some higher speed corners can get unrealistically heavy and for example a GT3/4 car has a fairly light steering IRL and the G forces during cornering arent that high, so it doesnt make sense to even subsitute it with FFB torque so much. Some people use 0 DP even on DD because they like the heavy feeling :) its all a personal taste tbh.
     
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  15. azaris

    azaris Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I can set FX to about 35-40 without inducing the dreaded "rattle" on my G29. It is important to get enough feel under braking and rear slippage.
     
  16. Lanius1984

    Lanius1984 New Member

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    That's really useful info, thanks. I prefer a bit heavier, even if that clips things a bit. With the G29 already being pretty weak I might start out at 0 here then.

    Good to know - I'll have a play around, as I assume the specific custom file will have a pretty big impact on this setting too? I hate any rattle and much prefer a smoother feel.
     
  17. Shadak

    Shadak Active Member

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    FX slider in the last custom files is independant, so you can only play with that to your liking without worrying about other sliders adjusting the effects.
     
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  18. Rob Davies

    Rob Davies Bobby Dazzler AMS2 Club Member

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    Hey Kuku - I agree with you, on my DD using 4.5 Ex2 (DD tune) I've noticed less dynamic range in the details post last AMS update... any chance you could point out what I might change to affect the 'core strength of master effects and key values' to restore the feeling please?

    Many thanks in advance and thanks for yours and others continous work with this - I'm 'finally' a convert from default :)

    Rob
     
  19. TomP

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    @Lanius1984,
    as an alternative to the Karsten rFuktor file, you can try the one from my signature. I made it specifically for the g29.
     
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  20. Raceracerace

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    Nah you have to wake up a bit earlier in the morning to fool me. Yeah, spare it, custom force feedback 'genius'. I don't need to contribute - you must think the creator of the file(s) are super dumb. What you are doing is pedantic, OCD, whatever it may be. Its not nearly as helpful as you think it is. I think your wheel is on its way out.

    Its only a t300.

    I get the impression you hate the custom force feedback files. So do not hide behind that premise, that you're on some crusade or you're suddenly the martyr (and by your own mind more needed than ever). I am not buying it.

    I am well aware of what the files are, their limitations and their good points. So no I am more inclined to disregard everything you are saying about that - this custom force feedback is your drug, you might want to ask why you care so much - but unless you are a disabled person or mentally deficient, you might want to stop making so many adjustments.

    Its a contrivance this entire "scientific experiment" you believe you are running. Its got more to do with you having nothing of worth or merit on your world that you would devote so much time to doing this - what other payoff are you getting. We've studied these kinds of things and this obsession you have is not even helpful.

    If you only cut back on your posts you would soon be able to listen. The post immediately below the one I originally made had settings in it. That post by Stakanov. Thats all you need. Use that file or version 2 with those settings and WAIT.

    You are desperate - trying to 'eek' something out of the file which is simply not there. Just wait a little more. Every page has yet another one of your epiphany's but it may give some other people the chance to speak up.

    __

    I will contribute (again) actually. The main files there is barely anything wrong with them that a little bit more time won't iron out in normal accordance with how its always been. They feel good, they are not 'faulty' and don't need massive adjustments. I mean - lol fk me - because I could try day and night to feverishly and desperately adjust them like certain others but its not needed. The game actually happens to be more fun than ever - which is the purpose of a game.

    This is not that fellows 'pet project'. Talk about jumping on a bandwagon. Thats an empty existence when fun can't be found in a game he bought to have fun in. If he was in a survey group, he would be asked to not provide a survey since his standard deviation is too far removed. I am happy for him to contribute like anyone - but yeah, cleanse the expectation. There is no magic wand, no magic number so stop trying to give the other forum members you can do what the creators are working toward. Newsflash - they drive the same game/cars.

    T300 will soon be obsolete. There is an upgrade period in bound for the niche.
     
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