Bug Reports - Automobilista 2 (Read the Opening Post)

Track & Layout Used:Kaya Historic
Car Used: Gen 2 Retro
Applicable Settings: Real historic 9/12/86 10 laps
Report:Rolling start AI 10 at 111/80. plus 4 human . 2 human (neworder and swift 81 appear to have failure at start then sink into pit or stay in mid air
Swift 81 had no problem in 2 previous races same track and settings. I dont know if the cars became sky cars before or after they left as chat box did not show and did not disply chats correctly when S frost got the grats for human win
Steps to reproduce as above and details in vid

 

Track & Layout Used: Interlagos, Nurburgring GP 2020, Silverstone
Car Used: Formula V10 Gen 2
Applicable Settings: custom championship, 15 minute qualifying, 5 lap race, 23 AI opponents, 85 difficulty, 25 aggression, clear weather, top 10 point system,
Report: trackside texture like grass and such look like mirrors and reflect the sky
Steps to reproduce: I skipped quali and started last in all 3 tracks to make things more fun. Interlagos looked fine in quali and during the race, after I finished the Interlagos race I quit the game and shut down my pc. Later I returned to the game and resumed the championship. Nurburgring & Silverstone looked fine when I did an outlap in quali but during both races trackside textures looked like mirrors. I had this issue in this short custom championship but in previous single races I did before and in practice & time trial in those tracks everything looked fine.

 

Custom Championship Mode:
1. One AI still has same livery than player, without having exceeded the maximum number of AI for the class. Therefore, one livery is always missing in the field.
2. Screen always shows wrong date while loading.
3. AI often drives faster in races than in qualifying.
4. When skipping qualifying, screen often shows fantasy times for the AI. Sometimes much faster than they are when absolving the session, on other tracks slower than their real times.
5. Graphic issues when switching from qualifying to race.

Frustrating experience. Please test things in a proper way before release.

 

Track & Layout Used: Cascais
Car Used: Stock Car 2021
Applicable Settings: Custom Championship Rd 1, dual 40 min races with 30 minute Q and 90 min practice
Report: During Practice, AI pits in and retires at the 1 hour mark. Race 1 grid does not match Qualifying results.
Steps to reproduce: N/A, but can run more tests if needed. Not for the Practice session problem though--that takes too long. haha

Note: #1 and #3 in the post above mine (AI livery copying player and AI race pace vs Q pace) are issues I've also had. #1 is super frustrating as it tickles my OCD and forces me to delete the championship and try again, only to find that my custom championship schedule and formatting doesn't always save. Please show some love to custom championships--its absence is why I gave up on Project Cars 1 and 2 and you guys are superheroes for getting it in the game when SMS couldn't... but its flawed implementation will drive me away from AMS 2 sooner rather than later.

 

I was able to recreate the race grid not matching qualifying times and record it. Using a separate championship at a track that wasn't Cascais, qualifying and Race 1 worked fine. It seems to have something to do with Cascais.

 

Track & Layout Used: Interlagos "Outer"
Car Used: GT1 Mercedes CLK
Applicable Settings: Single race
Report: Every time after leaving the pits
Steps to reproduce: All the time since last update I installed on 12th July, 2021

Changelog says " Disable collisions for vehicles on pit exit in sessions with AI present (prevents AI on main track colliding with vehicle existing pits, pending further updates to behaviour)"
This is very annoying. In Interlagos (Outer course /"Oval") I have no collision detection with AI cars at all anymore. It doesn't matter where I am on the track. All AI cars are ghosts. Really disappointing. Please fix that.

 

Track & Layout Used: Cadwell Park, Brands Hatch, etc. Tracks with season foliages
Car Used: Lotus 23, Catherham
Applicable Settings: Single race, maximum graphic settings (4k) with MSAA high
Report: Sporadic drop of framerates
Steps to reproduce: Not really reproducable, appears sometimes and then after app restart maybe gone or same problem again

Since update to V1.2.1.4 I have in some cases massive stuttering and framerate drops,
depending maybe on the car and track combination.
I most cases this phenomenon appears when using "older" cars like the lotus 23 or the caterhams on tracks which were updated with season foliage like Cadwell Park (see video) or at Brands Hatch.

Does anyone experienced the same problem ?

Usually I did not having any performance issues so far, always have 60fps.
I am using a RTX3080 on an Aorus Master X299X with I9 10900X and 32Gb of memory.

You can have a look at the video here where you can see the problem :

 

Track & Layout Used: Silverstone
Car Used: Formula Ultimate
Applicable Settings: Race in VR
Report: what I see in the left mirror is horizontally mirrored
Steps to reproduce: do a race with formula ultimate and look in the left mirror. What you see if horizontally mirrored. Very confusing.

 

I can confirm that issue too.. It is happening on every lobby or dedicated server session. This is very annoying if you are a content creator or racing on a league with teammates.

 

Too many fundamental issues need fixing and it spoils the game.

I take part in a weekly league, the game is great, nice range of content etc.

However there’s still game breaking bugs that have to be addressed.

Common issues;

- Starts regularly don’t sync across the whole grid, resulting in unnecessary false starts for some people.

- Almost every week someone ends up ghosting in the sessions, they then don’t show up on the leaderboard and struggle to race wheel to wheel, this happened to me last night, could still take part but to everyone else I wasn’t shown on the leaderboard, just as a random car driving around.

- Huge vibration on cars during streams, making the race unwatchable, maybe this isn’t as important but it still needs fixing.

- We did an endurance event at the weekend (multiplayer, no ai) and at the 4 hour mark a team tried to pit, the game wouldn’t let them pit on two occasions, saying the pit box was occupied. There was no more than 4 cars in the pits at the time and the whole grid was only 16 cars, the track was spa.
The race then had to be restarted which was very annoying.

- Tyre wear is inconsistent, during the enduro we had 2 stints were the tyres did not wear at all, then in other stints they did as normal.

- 50% of the time I load the game up and it doesn’t recognise my pedals, I then have to unplug / plug them back in - annoying (T-LCM)

- Camera shake, ran gt3 at Adelaide last night and tried the Porsche, the first time I’ve ever struggled with camera movement in VR and I have great VR legs, I’ve played a lot of VR games. Switched to the Mclaren and it was better but still had to turn down the world movement significantly or it felt like I was driving on a dirt track.

- The problem is if you turn down world movement in VR and run Daytona, on the banking the camera and car angle don’t sync and you end up with the car / head at a weird angle, this needs fixing.

Honestly this game is frustrating, they really really need to iron out fundamental issues before releasing more content.

 

Just tried your race settings in VR but did not have any stutter issues. Nice view btw.
edit: tried with ginetta cups

 

Track & Layout Used: Any
Car Used: Ginetta G40 Cup
Applicable Settings: Drive in VR
Report: (Orange colored) Lighting is not added/missed for gauges in the car.
Steps to reproduce: Opening in VR either in night(more obvious) or day and togle lights off/on.

 

Custom Championship:
The season never ends. After finishing last race and going back to menu, screen shows that last race was not done yet and you can do it again and again without ever finishing your championship. In a condition ike that, the feature is worthless.

 

Track & Layout Used: Any
Car Used: Any
Applicable Settings: Race
Report: AI never gets penalties during race. Had set number of warnings to 1, got one warning and later on a penalty for leaving track limits (so, the system works for human drivers). In the replay I saw that some AI had exceeded track limits quite often by doing their side by side racing and cutting corners - no one of them got a penalty. Did several sessions with different cars, always the same, no penalties for the AI during race, no matter how they act on track.

 

Track & Layout Used: Interlagos Outer ring and Brands hatch
Applicable Settings: Any I believe
Report: Cars will still get caught in Barriers at several point on track.
For brands at the straight on left after Surttess
Steps to reproduce: Crash into barrier

Thanks @Roy Niessink for group ingame feedback pic


EDIT interesting Brake temps

 

Custom championship race with super V8 at Londrina, on the inside line in the lead up to the last corner there is an invisible wall that destroyed my car and my steering wheel into wrist breaking mode.

 

Track & Layout Used: Silverstone 2001, don't think it's track depending
Car Used: F1 V10 Gen2, don't think it's car depending
Applicable Settings: single race, rain
Report: No rainspray visible on long distances

 

Track: Silverstone
Formula ultimate
Track limits need to be reviewed. If sliding to the outside of Brooklyn’s corner that isn’t an advantage. But driving outside of Chapel does give an advantage and doesn’t get penalized. Sliding off Stowe isn’t an advantage either, yet gets penalized. Also yellow flags and double yellows are not being adhered to by the AI. Furthermore once the player gets a drive thru penalty there should be 3 laps to service that, not disqualify on the first crossing of the start finish line.

 

Track & Layout Used: Any (particularly bad at Silverstone)
Car Used: Formula Ultimate but all the formula cars are similar
Report: Bonnet and roof camera views are not 'view-damped' and make driving impossible because of the excess shaking and bumps.
Steps to reproduce: Drive the Formula Ultimate around Silverstone in bonnet view (or roof view) and try to get around Copse Corner neatly by hitting the apex lol.
Explanation: The two cockpit views seem to be smooth to drive in, and there are options to smooth out the bumps etc in those views (Head Movement and Legacy). However the bonnet view (that I use all the time) is not smoothed out at all - you see every bump - same goes for the roof view. This makes the Formula/Openwheel cars impossible to drive in those views.

We really need the external camera views damped in the same way as the cockpit view is so that we can actually see where we are driving - Copse corner for example is so bumpy in the Formula Ultimate bonnet view that you cannot even see the apex! It's just ridiculous.

The rest of the cars are fine - GT, Prototype etc are all fairly smooth to drive in bonnet/roof views. Its just the openwheel cars for some reason.

Edit: After having tried similar cars in both PCars2 and F1 2021 both of those games are much smoother to drive in bonnet/roof view than this game is so definitely seems to be a bug.