Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. newtonpg

    newtonpg Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Just installed and did a quick test with StockCar2021 and Porsche RSR at Bathrust.
    Tested with Stock Car 2021 and Porsche RSR at Bathrust.
    It became a instant new standard to me, thank you!
     
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  2. InfernalVortex

    InfernalVortex Active Member

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    Im not a big fan of adding unrealistic "yaw" feelings to the force feedback. I prefer something that captures mostly only what would actually be transferred to the wheel, and for the reasons you mentioned @Kuku Maddog Mainly because it's just what I'm used to. Is there a particular recommendation in that case?
     
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  3. NBrembo

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    Thanks for this, those files are so much better, even for G27.
     
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  4. DaReaLDeviL

    DaReaLDeviL www.RacePlace.de

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    With the latest update and a Simucube 2 Pro - setting range like in the 4.6 files I get a lot it jittering and crazy wheel action. Does anybody encounter the same problems or something simular?
     
  5. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    perhaps something to do with new tire treads, some of the cars like the vintage lotus 23 have picked up off putting road vibes, and feel like solid rubber tires.
    I find 4.6 far more sensitive to bumps and texture than previous versions like 4.4
     
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  6. ToMythTo

    ToMythTo The Hero We Need But Not Deserved

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    Thanks for the effort. A few questions;
    Do all these files use damping slider as damping slider? And what in game ffb settings do you use?
     
  7. newtonpg

    newtonpg Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Your questions are answered into each ffb_custom_settings.txt lines 15 to 23 :)
     
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  8. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Trust you found what you were looking for , but please remember there’s no right or wrong way. the files allow a lot of flexibility.
    i can run some gt cars like the amg gt3 etc with zero power steering but need a little on others in the range of 10-20 usually.
    but then something like the RSR i need more just to not have its sway over power my loose grip ,
    and some cars can be run with 100 gain and 100 power steering and feel pretty good .
    it’s all about experimenting.
     
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  9. Chip

    Chip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Karsten Hvidberg You’ve been very quiet as of late…this usually means some massive FFB update is coming lol.
     
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  10. AndreiC

    AndreiC Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Really like what you did with this new update, nice work.
    I also found some time to tweak the Delta file and make a mix with Stakanov and my values and it really helps feeling the car more natural.
    I tested on the new Porsche RSR and compared to previous files the car feels much better and easier to drive. I also was able to lower my TT lap at Laguna Seca by more than 1.5 sec. Definitely my go to file now.
     

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  11. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi All

    A new personal go to tune for me, Its a bit of a mash up of 4.6 with some cues from 4.4, which I was flip flopping with.
    It features more smoothing over 4.6 to alleviate some roughness post update to treads etc and a new philosophy implemented.o_O

    This will feel different than the others. give it time to adjust.:whistle:
    Its far more oriented towards the front end and realistic wheel movement without as much driving from the rear end or being dictated too by rear tire forces as previous.
    the way the wheel behaves in certain situations feel more natural, for example entry oversteer is something you needed to fight off before, now you just relax your hands ( and the brake ) let the car come to you .
    you will feel it regain balance and grip.

    This is working really well across many different cars and I'm running no power steering on most , its probably more a low end or belt wheel base set up, with a number of less commonly changed scales altered after some interesting experimentation , but can easily be adapted .

    Happy race weekend.:D

    *edit, High end version added to zip

    Edit Delta-X_ version 2 added ( the fix )

    Edit 08/12/21
    Files amended for bugs and archived in Zip file in My signature.
    Delta - S is now preferred tune and easiest to adjust.
     
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  12. AxisMagi

    AxisMagi Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Wow fantastic work Kuku!! I've been trying to figure this out for a long time! Now with your
    mod can get a more realistic feeling during oversteer slides without the excessive wheel pull throwing off the timing. Also thanks for making versions of the file for us DD drivers as well as your T300. Diggin it! Thank you.
     
  13. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks , it was remiss of me not to do the same with Delta-X, so have added that above and in original delta post.
    its still very good on my t300 without extra personalization.
     
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  14. tUMi

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    Well done, Kuku. ;) The original rFuktor 4.6 high end file with core Delta elements altered works like a dream on my Simucube 2 Sport DD wheelbase. It is my favourite custom FFB file at the moment, I even prefer it over the original unmodified rFuktor 4.6 file. :)

    Also thanks for adding the high end file to your Delta-X package, I will try the Delta-X high end file tomorrow, I'll let you know then how it feels on my wheelbase.

    Anyway, your file with the core Delta elements altered helped me to achieve another world record in AMS2 Time Trial mode after four months of break from AMS2. :) This time it was on Laguna Seca, I managed to beat the old WR by one second, which felt very satisfying. Links to the screenshots are below along with my in-game FFB settings and True Drive settings:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/z7edky9zr...una_seca_tumi_world_record_15-08-21.png?raw=1

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/i7rtkaf0r..._seca_tumi_personal_record_15-08-21.png?raw=1


    https://www.dropbox.com/s/fuzdpiyn0..._world_record_15-08-21_ffb_settings.png?raw=1

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/xumclzn16..._15-08-21_ffb_settings_true_drive_1.png?raw=1

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4afnwkscb..._15-08-21_ffb_settings_true_drive_2.png?raw=1

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/wna5ieajl..._15-08-21_ffb_settings_true_drive_3.png?raw=1

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ird2y2ps..._15-08-21_ffb_settings_true_drive_4.png?raw=1
     
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  15. tUMi

    tUMi Active Member

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    Wow, Kuku! You really did hit the sweet spot with your high end Delta-X tune version. It feels so natural! The biggest difference for me compared to the previous Delta tune is that catching slides have become easier thanks to the more natural feel which makes pushing cars to their limits more enjoyable. :)

    I tested your Delta-X tuned high end file with various GTE car and track combinations - for example, the Corvette C8.R GTE on Laguna Seca, the Porsche 911 RSR GTE on Jerez Moto and the BMW M8 GTE on Nurburgring GP. Each of those combinations with the high end Delta-X tuned file felt just awesome. :)

    I also tested it with the Formula V12 which is still my favourite car in AMS2 and oh boy, how well the high end Delta-X tuned file does it's job on this particular car. In fact it did so well that I even managed to improve the world record lap time on Laguna Seca in AMS2 Time Trial mode by one and a half tenths of a second which I've been holding since yesterday evening (did that with your previous high end file that had the Delta core elements altered). :)

    http://www.dropbox.com/s/fadgrxsygdm4blm/ams2_f-v12_laguna_seca_tumi_world_record_16-08-21.png?raw=1

    http://www.dropbox.com/s/snntdfbret..._seca_tumi_personal_record_16-08-21.png?raw=1
     
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  16. Lars Mars

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    I had to tune down the kerbs a little bit as my arms almost rattled of my body

     
  17. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    @Kuku Maddog

    I like the Delta X High End file a lot. Under-steer / over-steer response feels more natural and suits my DD-wheel settings very well. It's pretty amazing how such differences affect our perception of car handling in AMS2.
     
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  18. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    what wheel are you using Lars?
    if a thrustmaster you might like to try running default control panel settings with spring and damper on etc.

    I have trouble deciding what way to run it .
     
  19. Richard appleyard

    Richard appleyard AKA Neworder

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    High end files great with a t500rs best file ever thanks for your hard work
     
  20. Lars Mars

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    Simucube 2 Pro
    I use almost the same settings as tumi but with gain at 27

     
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