Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Of course you can try it in highend or DD, just try it and find the balance with the sliders in the game, the ranges should be +/- these: Gain 30-60 LFB 0-15 FX 10-40 DP 0-20
    If you don't like the sensations I can only recommend copying 1, 2 or many values from Karsten's original 4.6 (which is for DD and high-end) or take them from Kuku's HighEnd (v.2 or v.2.1) .. . the base is always the same and the code also, only the tuning is different and therefore certainly some effects (which are set high for the low end) must be raised for the high end / DD ... I write low end because it I tune in to a cheap G920 I can't say in advance or first that it would feel good on the high end / DD, I would be unnecessarily presumptuous!!!
     
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  2. paddler

    paddler Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I like too. Since I am also a T500 user i am intersted in your settings. Thx.
     
  3. Manolo

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    Magnificent file :) or rather it was already in version 1, now in version 2 it seems even more lively and variable and above all in braking as you warned. I can only thank you again @Stakanov ;)

    PS: Even my friend with DD (with whom we have fun alone and with AI) appreciates a lot.
     
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  4. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Good to hear, out of curiosity what are your generally used settings in game.
     
  5. Richard appleyard

    Richard appleyard AKA Neworder

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    gain 75
    lfb 50
    fx 75
    damp 10
    thrustmaster control 100 100 0 0
     
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  6. Carlosfr

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    hello, what file do you advise me for thrumaster tmx pro
    a greeting.
     
  7. newtonpg

    newtonpg Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Stakanov
    Thank you, I will give it a try as soon as I come back home by the weekend!

    And probably a dumb question as I don't know nothing about code but...
    Is there a missing a "kmh_r" linked to "travel_r" at Momentum Rack section?
     
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  8. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    No mate (but thanks for the attention), look down ... in this case "kmh_l" refers to:

    # limit rot velocity
    (a (abs kmh))
    (f (* vel_rot_limit_coef (blend power_steering 1 2) 0.004))
    (a (- 1 (/ 1 (+ 1 (* f a)))))
    (a (/ a (- 1 (/ 1 (+ 1 f)))))
    (a (/ a (max 0.000000001 (abs kmh))))
    (n 1)
    (pn (/ (- 1 (/ 1 (+ 1 (* f n)))) (- 1 (/ 1 (+ 1 f)))))
    (kmh_l (* kmh a (/ n pn)))


    Then this function kmh_l is unique and right ... is only the name of function with the letter "l" (that makes you doubt) not left or right but the same for everything in the file ... and is linked to the travel_l and travel_r ....

    (travel_l (* vel_rot_scale 0.001 kmh_l))
    (travel_r (* vel_rot_scale 0.001 kmh_l))


    is ok!!! ;)
     
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  9. M.Guenette

    M.Guenette Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hey I'm looking for best / latest Custom file for Direct Drive Wheels ie: Accuforce , Simucube , Bodnar , Fanatec DD2
     
  10. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    @M.Guenette

    Nobody can just tell you which is best, its personally subjective and ultimately up to you to decide.
    But the rfuktor line has always been developed primarily on high end wheels.

    4.6 is considered the peak and then there’s some personal tunes of that.

    Here is a file containing the original rFuktor 4.6 and also my Delta variation of it. V2 is popular and V3 is better for me but waiting on feedback from DD users.
     
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  11. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    To me, the v3 feels strange. Can't put my finger on exactly why. I have a CSW 2.5 and it seems to have a strange turning, as if there is nothing then it turns. Not like a deadzone though. Like I said, hard for me to explain. I have tried V2, and like it. Just a few tweaks to get it how I like it. Still experimenting. Thanks guys. A whole lot better than default.
     
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  12. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    That’s weird..
    It’s tighter or more immediate in sensation of lateral force’s than previous file for me. I was more worried it might be to twitchy for better wheel setups.
    What where your in game settings and what car did you try it with.

    does it help if you increase the centering strength to 0.52 ?
    (centering (blend (- 1 trail_strength_feel) 0.52 0.5))
     
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  13. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I tried a few cars, SC 2021, GT3, GT1, FV10, FV12 to name a few. Will try again later. My In-Game settings are Gain 27 - 30, LFB 0 - 5, FX 35 - 38 and Damping 0 - 5 I normally run that line, (centering (blend (- 1 trail_strength_feel) 0.52 0.5)) at 40 ish
     
  14. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I would suggest running higher gain, to the point where it’s weighted nicely at low load, then you can utilise power steering to limit the high load force’s. It will vary from car to car, there’s a few cars that seem strangely light in force lately. I’ve just tried the Copa Montana, and it really weak.
     
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  15. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    A strange thing happened to me ... I launch the game and everything is ok ... I close the game and find an AMS2 update in Steam (no info, no new version in Steam).
    I open the Reiza forum ... here too no communication ...I relaunch the game and start a race ... the Custom FFB is completely gone (the keys, direction and gears work but the force and vibrations are zero), the Default ffb is OK ... re-calibrate but nothing to do, I delete the documents folder/Automobilista2, I reset everything, but nothing works when i copy the FFB file ... o_O

    SOMEONE CHECK IF THE STEAM DETECTS UPDATES AND CONFIRMS THAT MY FFB FILES WORK?

    I HOPE IT WAS ONLY ONE OF MY EXPERIENCE ON MY PC AND I WOULD ALREADY FOUND THE SOLUTION BUT I WOULD LIKE YOUR CONFIRMATION THAT THE LATEST FILES UPLOADED BY ME ON THE FORUM DO NOT GENERATE ANY DISCOMFORT TO YOU ... ;)

    THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
     
  16. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    That sounds like the doom check function kicking in .
    Will check in a little while.

    edit, seems ok at my end, no updates either.
     
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  17. Manolo

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    Here all is ok @Stakanov ... no problem with FFB ;) ... but I also got an update with no info ... o_O
     
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  18. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    OK Confirm ... IS ALL OK WITH THE FILE FFB ON THE FORUM ;)

    The problem was only for me and on my pc, because i am trying to tune the karts in a decent way (it will take some time) ... i was trying to see if it made sense to manage the flatspot effect in karts and this created the problem ...

    (flatspots_scale (if isKart 0.01 flatspots_scale))

    I HAVE FORGOTTEN THE LAST CLOSING PARENTHESIS AND THE FILE WAS WRONG IN THE
    COHERENZE .... SORRY IF I DISTURBED YOU ... BETTER BE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS OK FOR YOU!!!

    BUT IS STRANGE THIS GHOST UPDATE ... NOW LANCH THE GAME AND THE WHEEL FFB IS LOAD ... GO FIRST OF RACE AND THE WHEEL FFB IS FLAT ... START WITH RACE AND ALL IS OK AND FFB IS LOAD ... IF I REMENBER CORRECT, FIRST IS ALWAYS LOAD FROM START GAME AND TO THE RACE OR NO???
     
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  19. M.Guenette

    M.Guenette Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thank You Kuku Maddog !

    I will try this out this evening .
     
  20. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Have you tried what i did with Kart section ?
    # Kart adjustments
    #

    (isKart (if (min 0 (- steer_ratio 6)) 1 0))
    (master_rack (if isKart 1.0 master_rack))
    (master_road (if isKart 1.5 master_road))
    (center_relax (if isKart 0.5 center_relax))
    (rack_friction (if isKart 0.5 rack_friction))
    (vel_rot_scale (if isKart 1.5 vel_rot_scale))
    (vel_rot_limit_coef (if isKart 2.0 vel_rot_limit_coef))
    (accel_feel (if isKart 0.0 accel_feel))
    (front_tyre_stretch_feel (if isKart 0.12 front_tyre_stretch_feel))
    (rear_tyre_stretch_feel (if isKart 0.3 rear_tyre_stretch_feel))
    (texture_scale (if isKart 0.35 texture_scale))
     
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