Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Interesting @Kuku Maddog , all much more predictable and manageable, for me it is an excellent starting point, the Logitech is certainly softer and more elastic but starting from the your values is very helpful to me. Thanks!!!

 

well those are the only lines of Kart depending code i’ve got. i scrapped the rest as just adds another layer of complexity and didn’t seem to be in line with the natural physics of the sim.
i don’t drive karts in game by preference, but when i might randomly. i just want it to feel familiar.

 

This should be added to the custom file to help people setting their proper values for their wheels!

"does it help if you increase the centering strength to 0.52 ?"
Yes this helps quite a bit, your file is now the most natural ffb in AMS2. It allows me to feel the cars the best so far.
Great job mate! Thx again!

 

good feedback
Reading on ph so no signature, why wheel did you have again ?

I’m still thinking i might need to make high and low end files.
i really struggling to get good strength from all cars in game at default static force values.
think it’s better on t300 with normal static force removal at 0.05 etc.
I don’t get why there’s so much variation in strength between some cars.

 

Also T300Rs but I do not know why you cannot see my gear in the signature.

 

the signature doesn’t get shownwhen viewing on my phone ( maybe something to do with screen size , but it’s normal) .

 

@Kuku Maddog Definitely keen to try out any high-end version you produce of your V3 Delta Tune. I can try to tune it as well, but would need some guidance on which lines of code to focus on. I'm not sure if that would just end up taking more time than you taking a stab at it yourself though.

Also, I hate that mobile/phone version of this site doesn't show signatures! For those browsing on mobile (and for your reference as well Kulu), I have the Simucube 2 Pro if you are curious.

 

The main thing to change is the centering strength mentioned above, but depending on what you feel it might need more or less of , the file does feature some guidance .
Any scale that’s been altered has a different number outside of the brackets, this number is the number it was as standard in the original.

so outside of centering and damper being quite different, most are only minor changes .
There’s a couple of smoothing lines that could be taken back to stock too, but generally increasing fx would negate them .

the most useful information I need to gleam from DD users is , is the any oscillation problems and is the reaction to oversteer and yaw too immediate.

 

Phones need to be held in landscape position to see signatures.

 

@AndreiC what version are you using at the moment? Generally your tweaked files have been my favourites for a while now.

 

The file I use is the Kuku "Delta-X Tune - version 3" from post #3527.
I only increased the centering strength to 0.52.
As reference start with McLaren 720s GT3
Edit : Added proper in game print screen ffb settings

 

Isn’t that on the default ffb?

 

Yes sorry, wrong game print screen. I have default in one game and I was testing Kuku ffb file in other.

 

thank you, don't think I've tried this version yet. Will have a play around this evening.

 

I've used v3 quite a bit now on my DD1, and really like it. Oscillations aren't a problem as long as I keep at least one hand on the wheel, but letting go with both hands are no-no. After a few seconds the wheel starts to oscillate violently.
Haven't noticed any other bad effects, but haven't tried the old Monza oval with this version yet. Haven't seen anything about the jolts there being fixed yet?

 

v3 works great for me, no issues with oscillation what-so-ever. I even test various cars by flinging the wheel to one side and letting go, the steering quickly settles back into the center position without any interference from me.

I find the key to eliminating oscillations with DD-wheels is a combination of Friction and Damping in the wheel-driver settings. I typically use between 5-12% friction / 9-20% damping in combination to both stabilize steering behavior and limit SAT speed to reasonable levels. I do have 2 to 3 versions of the AMS2 FFB presets saved in my wheel-driver settings, depending on the car class (Classics / Formula / GT, etc.).

 

Thanks for feedback.

Here is a revised edition that should help as damping and centre relax the same as original . also i realized last night that with v2 high end file, I inadvertently shipped it with static force reductions values I was using for t300, so if thats what worked well for that, then might as well keep it.

this revised file still feel perfectly fine on low end too.

No fix for monza oval unfortunately. I can reduce the jolt buy adding smoothing to trail , but comes at cost of feel.

 

I turned both Friction and Damping off in the wheel driver some time ago, I think Karsten recommended it sometime during the Silver Raw era
As I said, I have no problem as long as I keep a hand on the wheel, but I'll do a test turning Friction and Damping on again.

UPDATE:
Did a test with the v3 beta from Kuku, and set Damping = 50 and Friction = 10. Oscillations when I let go of the wheel, even at walking pace...

With default FFB the wheel doesn't oscillate at all, so there is something strange going on with my DD1 and custom FFB files

 

I was using your V2 on my DD1 for a good while and I do like it but I thought it was a bit to strong and I couldn't find a happy medium to the FFB strength on the wheel and in game. I have since moved back to 4.6 and enjoy the strength of things there. But this is just my personal preference as we are all different.

 

ok interesting.
that might be something to do with the static force reduction difference between stock and tweaked.
because of a lack of grunt and range of lower power wheel , i had to reduce the average static force reduction to get some low load strength.
so if you compare the values of each version you will see what’s different.
V2 might just need to raise the normal static force reduction for your preferences.