Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I doubt you would need to adjust force strength, that’s probably only something low power wheels might need if running standard static force reduction values.

    this is something I need to know, as I have in file damper down low.
    Does increasing the the (d. 0.04) multiple help ?
    Or maybe centre relax ?
     
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    Thank you I will try this


    Can you share your In Game sliders setting as well?
     
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  3. kivipallur1

    kivipallur1 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks, I'll definitely try it but I don't think I have time before Wednesday/Thursday.

    With default FFB it was
    Gain 65
    LFB 15
    FX 40
    Damper 0 (at least I remember I had it on zero, maybe I added a bit)

    With Kuku v3 I played around with following
    Gain 60-70
    LFB 5-10
    FX 30
    Damper (Power steering in case of these custom files) 30-40
     
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  4. Nolive721

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    Thanks a lot surely same settings than mine with kuku file

    Will try your TM CP trick with spring&damper at 0 and share my findings back here

    Thanks again
     
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    newtonpg Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Agree and I think you're in the right direction.
     
  6. ray64040

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    Thought I'd share my positive experience with custom FFB and a Thrustmaster TS-XW. I'd been reluctant to go down this road in the past to avoid one more thing that needed to be adjusted after each update.
    Decided to keep it simple with Karsten's latest 4.6 release and his settings for a CSW 2.5. I made the same changes to kerb_bump_scale and scrub scale. The improvements in curb and lateral grip feedback were immediately apparent. However it felt like I had sacrificed road feel and ABS/lockup feedback.
    After some trial and error I ended up with in game settings close to what I previously used with default FFB. I'm no longer feeling a sacrifice in road feel or ABS/lockup feedback. As an added bonus the centering force is reduced and more to my liking. The increased lateral grip feedback is great. I've noticed many times where I keep a car under control when I put a wheel or two off and it's just intuitive.
    Something else I would recommend for TS-XW users is the latest v8.00 firmware update. It provided a noticeable improvement in low force effects in all of the sims I drive.

    Thrustmaster TS-XW Control Panel settings:
    • Overall 75
    • Constant 100
    • Periodic 100
    • Spring 100
    • Damper 100
    • Auto-Center by the game

    Previous in-game default FFB settings:
    • Gain 75
    • LFB 45
    • FX 45
    • Damping 0
    • Menu Spring 40

    New in-game custom FFB settings:
    • Gain 75
    • LFB 40
    • FX 45
    • Damping 45
    • Menu Spring 40

    Thanks to everyone involved for their contributions to this mod.
     
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    Your wheel is the same base than the TSPC racer, do you mind sharing your actual custom FFB file here?
    I am happy to give it a try if you can
    Thanks a lot
     
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    I downloaded rFuktor-tunes2.zip using the link under "---- Silver Raw all latest files for all wheel bases ----" in post 2 on page 1 of this thread. Extract the file from the "Original high-end file" folder in the zip. Change kerb_bump_scale in the file to 2.5 and scrub_scale to 1.4.
     
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  9. TKracer

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    Just got my Simucube 2 sport. Is Silver Raw - rFuktor - Delta-X Tune_V3 by Kuku considered the best to use for simucube? Also what truedrive settings are preferred.

    I've tried a lot of different ones but so many parameters to keep track off.

    Any Simucube owners who want to chime in :) ?
     
  10. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I would suggest getting set up with the Karstens standard 4.6. original high end file.
    it was made on a Simucube after all, and there's some suggested settings in zip

    once your comfortable with it, then try some others,
    Delta V2 is popular, V3 is still Beta for a now.
     
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    thanks a lot,

    you just pointed me to the right direction with Karsten file. I just have little bit more Gain (80) and little less damping (40) than your in Game settings right now but rest is similar and your 2 parameters tweaking in the FFB file are also good

    @Kuku Maddog

    with Karsten file, I get this wheel centering speed that was missing in your own adjustments. I guess we are all different in expectations and how comfortable we feel with FFB but I wanted to give you this feedback just so you understand even better my comments in my original post about my wheel feeling kind of lifeless/sluggish with your parameters.
    again, I hope you don't take it personally
     
  12. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    no issue
    ive already made mention that the centering strength is too low in V3 beta.
     
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    Thrustmaster TS 300
    No matter which custom file I use, I have no feeling for the center of the wheel, especially with cars which love to bounce like rabbits as the Formula V_12. Do not have these problems with any other Sim (RF2, AC, RRE). When I increase the FFB Boost, the wheel just feels heavier and gets more snappy, but the feeling for the center still is bad. Is there any line within the custom ffb files where I can change that?
     
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    Hey this feels great! I do notice I get some heavy oscillations on straights at high speed. I think I've seen a few other people talk about this. I am going to play around with dampening to see if I can mitigate it .

    But thank you for a great starter!
     
  15. GearNazi

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    That's for the Kuku v3 of Rfuktor 4.6.

    The different files through the times have varying parameters that influence this "center-deadness" it seems.
    There is no reason your TS300 should suffer from this in ams2, I'm currently on a slightly modded TS300.
    What is required I find, is trial and error, and try some of the many, many different files out there.
    I've had the same custom one for a while now, and I'm loving it, very rFactor-y.
    I used to have a Mega account, but if you know an easy way to share the file I will gladly help you out.
    Or just PM me, I'll attach it to an email.
     
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    chonk Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @GearNazi you can just attach it here using the "Upload a File" button. It's just below the text input box.

    I'm sure lots of people would be interested in trying it out. Other people's tunes are the best thing about this whole thread. :)
     
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    https://easyupload.io/ is an opportunity. No registration required.
     
  18. GearNazi

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    As soon as I get home...
     
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    https://easyupload.io/kke0q0

    So much has been tweaked back and forth with this one, I've no idea where it even came from.
    It's a mish-mash of different peoples' work.
    I use 100 gain, ZERO lfb(sometimes 10/15, but I find it introduces a weird friction that doesn't feel natural to me...)and 50 FX. Damping isn't my cup of tea either, but I set it to 30/35-ish sometimes on cars with power steering.
    I try new files frequently, but I always end up missing this one.
    Switched back and forth between this and the default ffb, and found it to be an absolute horror show?!(Sorry Reiza!)
    Something is really off with that, though it seems to work lots better with the newer cars, that can't be a coincidence, right?
    Another thing I've noticed is that though it feels weighty, my t300's motor doesn't heat up nearly as much as with most other files I've tried. Which is good, I'm after wheel weight, not friction.
    TM settings are as they should be at 100/100/0/0, the spring and damper settings being at zero.

    In the end it's all a matter of taste, but I believe this one serves us belt-plebians really well.
    Let me know...
     
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  20. GearNazi

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    I must remember that... Shows how much I really share on this forum.:confused:
    It's up on easyupload now.
    And I completely agree, other people's tinkering is the absolute business.
    If we were to be stuck with the default FFB, I don't think I'd have 1400hrs in ams2 by a long shot.
     
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