Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. TonyM

    TonyM New Member

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    Thanks for the explanation! ;)
     
  2. Peter Stefani

    Peter Stefani Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Just as an update for the 1301.1894 update, I post my basic (starting point) settings for Logitech users:
    Default - 71/14/17/3
    Default+ - 62/12/8/4
    Custom All In One NoJo - 96/11/26/10
    Each car and track will be slightly different, so just assign some keys or buttons for raising and lowering the in-game FFB levels.
    Most cars are constantly being improved, so as time goes on, they will all get better.
     
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  3. dougdude

    dougdude New Member

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    Hey all. So I haven't fired up AMS2 in months. Not because I didn't enjoy it, I just haven't had time and had other priorities. Now with the latest Reiza update, I'm curious and want to get back into it.

    I know I was using Rfuktor 4.4 with great success and I liked it quite bit and performed well with it. Unfortunately, I don't remember much about it and don't even recall which file of the 4.4 I used.

    Anyway, with the new Reiza update, does 4.6 still perform well? How does it compare to the new default plus? I'm on a T300 by the way. If I want to start all over, what's recommended these days with a T300?

    Thanks,
    Doug
     
  4. JRMCreative

    JRMCreative New Member

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    Many thanks for the info. I now have a fanatec CLS DD and Porsche GT wheel :p
     
  5. AndreiC

    AndreiC Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @dougdude
    Try Default +

    Game : 70 gain, 15 Low Force Boost, 30 FX and 20 Damping

    Thrustmaster Panel : 100,100,100,0,0
     
  6. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi All

    Just a little housekeeping done to Delta-S tune. ;)

    Have disabled duplicated Steering angle source signal to alleviate some binding or notch around centre.
    Now just using blended for smoother transition between left and right steering angle
    #(wanted_sa_l (* (- steering_angle_l sa_delta_l) m_l))
    #(wanted_sa_r (* (- steering_angle_r sa_delta_r) m_r))
    (wanted_sa_l (* (- steering_angle_l sa_delta_l) (blend m_l 0.5 1)))
    (wanted_sa_r (* (- steering_angle_r sa_delta_r) (blend m_r 0.5 1)))

    *users may find they need a small increase in LFB if used to stronger road details around center.

    Have also made it easier to set centering strength in new scale form.

    (self_align_scale 0.22) # Speed and strength of self alignment - Range 0.22-0.52+

    Due to a request I have made a theoretical low end wheel version for the likes of logitech .
    Completely untested and trying to guess based of following Stakanov's files., Others might be able to put there spin on it. :whistle:

    I'm not sure there's any more progress to be made with tune.
    It should be easy to follow and tune to your taste and wheel base strengths and weakness.
    Happy Racing :hurrayreiza:

    Edit : 30/11/21
    Noticed some left over experimental caster code not wanted in Primary scrub file .
    Have amended and also added a extra + version with stronger details .

    Edit : 8/12/21

    Delta Archives Zip added with all files including Dom fix

    Edit 11/12/21
    Repacked Zip so all files inside ( doh :oops:) and added Alegunner belt wheel option for the Delta S.
     

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  7. jamespoly86

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    Tips for force feedback CSL Elite last version of AMS 2?
     
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  8. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    Has anyone noticed a reduction in surface texture / scrub & tear / Micro-bumps in the current AMS2 releases? With SimuCube2 Sport, I noticed a reduction in such effects, even in custom profiles although, I've been able to increase them in one I'm editing.

    Unfortunately, the game release coincided with an SC2 firmware update and I'm not sure of the cause.
     
  9. neal

    neal Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    there have been a lot of little updates since and including yesterday and now I'm totally confused, have no idea what they were and if they have made things feel worse. it would be so much more helpful if we could know what each update changed or added.
     
  10. chonk

    chonk Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I thought maybe things felt a little flatter after the last update, but I've been playing around with ffb a lot the last couple of days so it's hard to tell. Will do some A/B against default+ and the custom file I normally use this evening.
     
  11. Chip

    Chip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    For those using SC2 wheelbases, please share which FFB profile and associated settings (in-game and True Drive) you end up using after these most recent updates. Sadly, I’m out of town and can’t test/tune at the moment :(
     
  12. chonk

    chonk Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Dean Ogurek

    Had a play around there and to be honest I don't think there's been a massive change between 1.3 and 1.3.0.1

    What I would say though is that the variation in ffb from one car to another is much more noticeable since 1.3 Some cars feel far meatier like the 190E and some feel featherlight in comparison to pre 1.3 like the GT1 Porsche for example. The C9 which I've driven a lot lately feels less informative in terms of the features you described than it did previously with the custom file.

    On top of that I think that some of the drive train stuff that's been implemented is more apparent in default+ than it is currently in the custom files. One combination where this is quite obvious is the Roco 001 at Nurburgring. Try it out with only gain dialed in and then switch between custom and default+ there's a big difference especially at low speed.

    Anyway just my take on things currently, could be imagining it all of course.
     
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  13. dougdude

    dougdude New Member

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    Thanks! For a t300, is it now recommended to use default+ and not one of these custom ones here? I have no problem either way... just curious what the more experienced racers feel and use as they no more on the proper feel and what might help lap times based on what you should be able to feel.

    Thanks,
    Doug
     
  14. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Oops my bad :oops:
    Small bug found in primary scrub file in zip above. have fixed that up and added a extra + version with less smoothing and stronger details while im at it.
    Please re-download zip file.
     
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    delete.sry.
     
  16. Peter Stefani

    Peter Stefani Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I did notice a small decrease in the surface texture/scrub/tear effects after 1301.1894, so I assume it's due to a revision in the tire model, and I just added one click of FX to bring it back to where it was before.
     
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  17. Chip

    Chip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Just curious, have you tested with latest update? Is the file in the Zip still a valid base file to edit from? Sorry, just unclear how latest updates have impacted custom FFB files, if at all.
     
  18. Shriukan

    Shriukan Touristenfahrten Community AMS2 Club Member

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    All custom profiles are still good. Nothing changed in the physics or how they are handled. Just the drivelines themselves. If there are changes that don’t agree with you then it is mostly due to the way cars now handle and not the ffb.
     
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  19. Karl Rawstrone

    Karl Rawstrone New Member

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    I was liking Default+ at gain 65-70, 0 LFB, 50 FX, 0 Damper; then I went back to Silver Raw rFuktor 4.6 at 70-75 Gain, 0, 50, 0; then back again :)
    The Default+ makes the tyre and suspension feel and feedback almost rubbery (which is good for tyres I guess) and quite extreme - swingy - like the car deciding too much where it wanted to go - quite good fun but harder to control - too rubbery for my taste in the modern stock car for example.
    The rFuktor 4.6 can feel a little more, um, not grainy, but 'bumpy' (the curbs and scrub are more noticeable and the whole control feels tighter and I am more in control. I can still feel what the car is doing and wants to do and catch and control slides. Less 'showy' FFB but more functional. Feels like I am driving on a track rather than a water bed.
    I think I'm running my CSL Elite at 90 or 95 FFB, For 100, Brf 70, Dri -02 for both.
     
  20. NicoRem

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    Hi everyone! I'm not a good simdriver and I drive mainly for fun. This evening I tried the below T300RS GT settings with the new update 1.3 and I want to share them with all you because I'm quite satisfy of them after many trials on previous AMS2 versions.

    I'm also curious what are the feedbacks of some of you, in order to understand if my feelings are something right or wrong.

    Thanks in advance to everyone who will try them.
     

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