So i opend a thread here now for those who will be informed from people to people and not propaganda by the gouvernment.Please be kind and real.It's not a war of russians people it's Putins war.And russians do love their children too.
This thread is not to be meant for nationalists,please be objective please. It's easy to hit the "dislike" button,but it would be better to explain why. If you not interested in this topic avoid it. Peace to all!
this is general discussion section. As long as the discussion stays civilized, its no issue. It is impossible to escape it anyway.
If it can't be discussed here where can it be discussed? We are in a like minded group but potentially have completely different world, economic and social views, this is the perfect place to have a civil conversation.
If you are willing and able to spend for the over 1 Million refugees for home,meals and medical care you can easy spend some money via Amazon Pay to the Red Cross organisation. Every Euro counts.Saw this today on German Amazon website and gave 20 Euro.Smallest contribution is 5 Euro!
I hope this will stay for a long time. That economic isolation but with open diplomatic channel. But who can stop this RussianHitler? The Oligarch when they lose a lot of bucks?
You want quick and fast new about Ukraine, etc. Keep in mind there's always propaganda, but you can go to 9gag, then go to the lastest news-section and press fresh. So you get stuff that civillians post on 9gag without tv-bosses or anything between to decide to you whats important. Still keep in mind take everything with a grain of salt, tho.
OK, I'll bite. War is terrible, really terrible, always has been and always will be, and the average people are the ones who pay for the price for the "leaders" bs. And the Ukranian people right now deserve all the (non talking about military) help they can get and thankfully much of the world does that. But why wasn't the whole world helping out in the past other nations when their countries were being invaded some years ago? Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Algeria, Libya, Serbia, just to name only few of the dozens that quickly come to mind? Isn't it hypocritical that only now the whole (well, big part of it) western world is united against a war monger? Why not also before?
For reference: Last year in march it was less then 1,50€ for 1 liter 95 octane super E10 (10% Ethanol) that's our lowest gasoline grade. 1 Euro curently equals 1,11 US $ In other words, the highest grade fuel with 100 octane cost 11$ per Gallon. That in daily practice means we pay 14€ for 100km in average in a compact class car (VW Golf TSI) Our main supplier of natural Gas and oil is the Russian Federation...yet
Afghanistan-even te russians did not get it.The losses were too high. Syria,play balls for the mighty since it exist and till today under russian help and controle for Basha. The Arabian countries have their own interests.But never before has anyone threatened nuclear weapons in europe.Eritrea,also war funded by russia since i was born.But these are so "little" country,no one is interested in.Only good for selling weapons.Sadly.
So the only problem with war and invading countries is the nuclear threat? If there's no nuclear threat, it's ok to kill thousands? What about Serbia which was bombed from the NATO even with bombs containing uranium (not for the nuclear power, but for more damage)?
The devil is riding the world, evil is the winner, greed it's tool, Politician their demons. Only Warmonger are winning from wars, the stupid Soldiers and Citizens are always the losers. Our Anti- War- Green- Party in Germany is delivering weapons for the war :-D
And don't get me started about how the western civilization has destroyed and is still destroying dozens and dozens of countries economically and organizing coups all over the world. It's not war with normal weapons, but probably has tenfold victims than a "real" war. But for some reason almost nobody cares.