OSW 1 FFB Settings

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  1. fatalist

    fatalist Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi all,

    Looking to get back into AMS2 after giving up on it and going back to AMS1 and it's awesome FFB.

    Has anyone got any OSW 1 FFB settings?

    I've tried searching but apparently OSW and FFB are both too short a term to search for.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    What is your OSW? What software / firmware do you use for tuning?

    For SimuCube1, I've had best results using a custom ffb profile for AMS2. I feel it's possible to meet or exceed AMS1-ffb (it is excellent) when using a custom profile although, the soon to be released "Default+" AMS2 preset works really well, imo.

    As a general guideline for DD-wheels, here are some AMS2-ffb settings I suggest:
    • LFB: 0 (Can be helpful to remove center notch feeling, though).
    • FX: tune to preference / Adjust Wheel-side Filter to remove grainy details.
    • Damping: Intended to control wheel speed and smoothness but, subject to change based on ffb-preset & likely to change with coming update.
    Wheel-side Driver Settings:
    • Friction: 7-15% (eliminate center notch and add overall weight to steering).
    • Damping: 10-15% (Manage wheel-rotation speed).
    • Inertia: Optional (Useful to add more energy to effects).
    With a good mix of Friction / Damping, Oscillations should never be an issue at all. The new Default+ profile / custom profiles can provide plenty of detail, even for those that like smoothened road surface effects, scrub effects, etc.
     
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  3. Selcuk Koc

    Selcuk Koc Sele1981

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    Any news about this? Any file suggestions? I use the Simucube V1 and small Mige.
     
  4. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    If using the Default or Default + ffb, be sure to use plenty of LFB & Damping (In-game ffb settings), 50% on both is a good place to start.

    Any of the recent Custom files by Kuku or Karsten should work quite well. There are others you can try, too, it just depends on your preferences. Also, pay attention to how the in-game Damping works (as listed within the custom ffb file), as there are Damping vs Power-steering versions.

    SimuCube1 / SimuCube2 tend to work with pretty similar settings in my experience. So you can reference SC2 settings and try those as well.
     
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  5. Selcuk Koc

    Selcuk Koc Sele1981

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    Default+ feels really great with OSW. I had FFB at 60% on Default but at Default+ I had to take it down to 50% and its still extremely strong. Curbs etc. feel great. Road effects also nice. All extra effects are off. I also did not load a profile yet. But so far I only tried 3-4 cars. On the straight the FFB in the center position feels a bit death. Have to play more with the settings. Maybe reduce death zone?

    Tbh. I am overwhelmed and not an FFB pro. Usually I take the setting most people agree on is the best and then go with that forever. But the good thing in AMS2 is we can change the FFB in the menu while on the track.
     
  6. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    Glad to see you have made progress with the settings. Increasing the LFB will improve weak ffb around the center. It's not an aggressively scaled setting in AMS2, so it can be increased quite a bit more than many may realize. LFB is very effective at reducing the "loose" or "notchy" ffb around center.

    With any DD-wheel, applying Friction and/or Damping, either in-game ffb or in the wheel settings, is needed to control oscillation and excessive bump effects and rotational speed. It's quite different than settings used with any belt-driven steering system, having natural damping characteristics.

    I believe a good custom ffb profile will provide best results with dd-wheels but, that's not to say that Default / Default+ cannot get the job done. The different approaches just provide different levels of detail in somewhat different ways.

    It may be helpful to understand that each steering system and tuning strategy has it's own evolution. With DD-systems, the dynamic range is much greater, and the time needed to evolve our preferred ideal ffb, is also increased.
     
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  7. Selcuk Koc

    Selcuk Koc Sele1981

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    So, I really start to love the FFB in AMS2 with the OSW. It is pretty brutal on some cars. I am using the Standard+ profile, FFB at 55%, LFB 7% and FX off.

    Usually I never use dampening, I dont like that feeling. I like it when the car feels alife. But in AMS2 I have the problem that I am "scared" to drive over curbs and bumps with open wheel cars. The wheel really kicks hard. Is there any other way to reduce this effect without using dampening or reducing FFB strength?
     
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    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    Some things you can try:
    • Reduce the ffb Gain setting
    • Increase Friction at servo
    • Increase Damping
    • Try some Custom ffb files with reduce curb forces
    DD-wheels need some amount of Damping. The correct amount produces improved car control as well as more realistic steering feel. Too much Damping will cause the oversteer response to lag behind, making fast corrections difficult.

    DD-wheels generally have more than enough dynamic range to provide "Lively" ffb while still using a good amount of Damping to balance the desired level of ffb effects and performance.
    With AMS2, the Default / Default+ profiles are not the best for that purpose, imo.
     
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