Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Rob Davies

    Rob Davies Bobby Dazzler AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks Daniel, this is useful and makes sense in my experience.

    with my DD1 base at 100% and in-game at 40% it doesn’t feel as detailed as 80% on base and 60% in game… your explanation tallies.

    I tend to run 10 LFB (maybe because I’m the 100/40 situation the LFB brings some derail back) but will try with 80 wheel, 60 gain and 0 LFB.

    I also run 0 dampening.
     
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  2. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    zum Vergleich für die DD-Benutzer. Ich werde versuchen, das Schwingen des Rades nach Stakanovs Sitte zu eliminieren. . Dann das Hüpfen des Autos. Dann das Hüpfen des Autos. Bitte sagen Sie uns, was Sie fühlen, damit wir unsere Bräuche perfektionieren können. Besonders DD-Benutzer, weil ich glaube, dass Stakanovs Custom perfekt für Nicht-DD-Basen ist:)
     
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  3. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    against the swinging of the wheel .
    (master_rack 0.72 )
    (power_steering 0.4 )
    (dt(/267)) the latency is not noticeable but it is useful against swinging
    (centering 0.52)
    (over_steer_scale and under_steer_scale) set the same values, this makes steering much smoother and more homogeneous
    (center_full (blend(min 1.00(*lfb slider 10.0))) 0.45 0.4.
    Stakanov, it's already much better for my dd1. I'm curious what other users give for feedback on dd bases;)
     
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  4. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I'm at office now ... one hour and i can try at home ;)
     
  5. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Stakanov at (stretch_tyres_power_feel ) you have an error. _tyres_power_feel) you have an error.You wrote strech like that. I would set the value to 0.5. And (steer_spring_strength 0.65) for dd)
     
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  6. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Here is my suggestion for road settings for dd
    Nice evening

    # Road features settings
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    # Item # Value # DD or alt. value # Description, detail or suggested values

    (texture_scale 0.60) 0.60 #How much you feel the texture (consistency or grain of surface).
    (micro_bumps_scale 0.40) 0.30 #How much you feel the micro_bumps effect.
    (micro_bumps_smooth 0.0) 0.008 #How much smooth the micro_bumps. Suggested values to try: 0.002-0.005-0.008
    (large_track_bump_scale 0.30) 0.05 #How much bumps on the track are felt.
    (large_offroad_bump_scale 0.05) 0.05 #How much bumps off the track are felt.
    (kerbs_surface_scale 14.40) 7.50 #How much you feel the kerbs_surface effect.
    (kerbs_surface_smooth 0.04) 0.03 #How much smooth the kerbs_surface. Suggested values to try: 0.03-0.04-0.05
    (kerb_bump_scale 0.40) 3.00 #How big the tall curb bumps are.
    (rear_micro_bumps_scale 0.30) #How much the rear_micro_bump is felt.
    (rear_micro_bumps_smooth 0.05) #How much the rear_micro_bump is smooth.
    (rear_kerbs_surface_scale 0.40)
    (suspension_scale 0.20) 0.35 #How much the suspension is felt.
     
  7. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    have still forgotten (velocity_res_scale 0.3) it can still be taken out a little hard. But now I'm calm, hoping for feedback from dd users. :);) bye bye
     
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    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    If anyone has other ideas, please post. I am open for everything:)
     
  9. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Danielkart so, this is what I managed to file for the DDs without worsening the performance on the low and I think also med end bases ... as you can see the values are practically similar to yours with only little differences (on the right there are your values when not applied) or because they create noise or flatness, or because practically ridiculous for differents and therefore like it regardless ... ;)

    If you try it you should have pleasant sensations and if you so this we are very close to a shell or a single base for everyone, to be optimized only on some voice or effect as desired ...

    File "4W. Grip & Stretch" V2 WIP ... I hope in some judgment (seasoned with sensations or analysis) from DD users to confirm whether or not the file is pleasant
     

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  10. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    I will test it tomorrow with pleasure.:) It's a challenge to create a custom file for everyone. Of course, I've tuned mine extremely to the dd1, but now I still have your custom file, which is also fantastic. And of course all different bases can now be operated with your custom. Great Stakanov:D
     
  11. Tiago Ribeiro

    Tiago Ribeiro You must first finish AMS2 Club Member

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    Hey @Danielkart which specific settings are you using on the DD1 (Fanatec settings), and in-game? Would love to try to match what you have 1-1 as I test it :)
    Thank you!
     
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    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Good evening Tiago
    On page 241 I posted my file. The in-game and fanatec settings are described in the custom file at the beginning. I hope it helps you
    Best regards:)
     
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  13. Tiago Ribeiro

    Tiago Ribeiro You must first finish AMS2 Club Member

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    Thank you! Last question - do you have the torque key on?
     
  14. Rob Davies

    Rob Davies Bobby Dazzler AMS2 Club Member

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    Surely it’s illegal to buy a DD1 and not have the torque key on - lol. :)
     
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  15. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    yes sure thiago
     
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  16. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    I tested the new custom file and got a lot of new impressions and insights. I'll write something about it later, it will be longer ;)
     
  17. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I can only thank you in advance whatever your impressions are ;) ... to simplify obviously we deal with structural things, the slightest differences and/or small changes in the effects that are personal are irrelevant ... I'm curious :) I'll be back from work in the late afternoon ... see you later.
    Good day everyone.
     
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    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Tested with the new 2019 Formula Ultimate at Road America. The hardness and heaviness of the steering has improved a lot, it could be reduced a bit. But the big problem is the extreme swinging of the wheel. This is almost impassable for me. I drove the original and then with the values for dd on the right as you wrote to Stakanov. I would have to change a lot in the file to make it work for my dd1. But that's not the goal of making it good for all users. I think it's great up to about 8Nm, but after that it gets more and more difficult. The power of the base plays a very important role. If I reduce my power to 6Nm (your base) everything is perfect. But as I increase this power, it becomes more and more uncomfortable. So my thinking is the other way around. If it's good for big forces, it should be good for smaller ones too. Your file is awesome to the point of big powers. My file I have the same fantastic feeling with large and small powers. The only thing I have to do is reduce power_steering_angle from 0.4 to 0.1 or 0.15 for bases up to about 8Nm. I don't really care whether the file is from Stakanov, Karsten, kuku or me. Or if my name is mentioned in this file, I don't care. I want many people to enjoy this excellent ffb, there are always many people involved. Stakanov, maybe you can find a way to make it fit for all bases. Or anyone out there with DD bases, bring us your ideas and suggestions
    many greetings to all:)
     
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  19. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I have no problem to reduce the power_steering angle from 0.4 to 0.1-0.15 and rebalance the file ... if remaning only your necessary of disable yaw, relax os and other little value... is a good step foward ... you want that i try??
     
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  20. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    yeah sure stakanov that would be great.:) I'm just passing on my feeling that I don't have this extreme swinging with my custom. It's really extreme and almost impossible to drive. Unfortunately there is no feedback from other dd users:(
     

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