A small proposal regarding the historic tracks

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Apex, Apr 19, 2022.

  1. Apex

    Apex Active Member

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    First of all, I think I can speak for a lot of us that we're extremely grateful for having such an abundance of historic tracks at this level of quality. Not to mention the plethora of appropriate cars.

    Now, for the sake of making it a lot easier to match car/class with an appropriate track on the fly I'd suggest naming the historic tracks according to the layouts rather than a specific year.

    I did a little online research and would suggest something like this:

    Adelaide 1985-1995

    Hockenheim 1970-1980
    Hockenheim 1982-1991
    Hockenheim 1999-2001

    Imola 1953-1972
    Imola 1985-1994
    Imola 1995-2006

    Interlagos 1970-1977
    Interlagos Outer 1978-89

    Jacarepaguá 1977-1994
    Jacarepaguá 1995-2005
    Jacarepaguá Oval 1995-2005
    Jacarepaguá 2010-2012
    Jacarepaguá SCB 2010-2012
    Jacarepaguá Short 2010-2012

    Kyalami 1961-1987

    Montreal 1988-1990

    Monza Road Course 1966-1971
    Monza Road Junior 1966-1971
    Monza Road + Oval 1959-1965
    Monza Road + Oval 1966-1970
    Monza 1995-1999

    Nürburgring 1971-1982

    Silverstone 1975-1986
    Silverstone 1975-1986 No Chicane
    Silverstone 1991-1993
    Silverstone 1997-2002

    Spa-Francorchamps 1971-1978
    Spa-Francorchamps 1983-1993

    Spielberg 1969-1976
    Spielberg 1977-1987

    What do you think?
     
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  2. Kevin del Campo

    Kevin del Campo Active Member

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    Model years for all cars would help as well.
     
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  3. Koen_Sch

    Koen_Sch Active Member

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    I recall reading that they tried this before with the F1 cars, but got into some trouble with copyright rules. Not quite sure how this works for other types of cars and racetracks.
     
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  4. Gevatter

    Gevatter The James May of Simracing AMS2 Club Member

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    The car's years should be the following (correct me of course):
    F-Vintage G1 = 1967
    F-Vintage G2 = 1969
    F-Retro G1 = 1974
    F-Retro G2 = 1979
    F-Retro G3 = 1983
    F-Classic G1 = 1986
    F-Classic G2 = 1988
    F-Classic G3 = 1991
    F-V12 = 1995
    F-V10 G1 = 1997
    F-V10 G2 = 2002
    F-Reiza = 2012
    F-Ultimate G1 = 2019
    F-Ultimate G2 = 2022
     
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  5. rmagid1010

    rmagid1010 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Ngl im not a fan, as even within these years the tracks change. Curbs are reprofiled, trackside ads change etc. Imola in 2007 isnt really the same track as in 2022.
     
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  6. projupiter

    projupiter Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Maybe they could leverage the community for stuff like this. It would be cool if you could drop some xml files somewhere, which could override or add to the existing information for cars and tracks. This way the community could build accurate information about real models\dates of cars and extra information about tracks.
     
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  7. 2ndLastJedi

    2ndLastJedi Free speech matters AMS2 Club Member

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    This would be great but only if it stayed in keeping with how Reiza have the Ui layer out, unlike the liveries which (while I appreciate the work) can look rather messy with all the different ways the preview images are taken.
     
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  8. Kevin del Campo

    Kevin del Campo Active Member

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    Thats rather annoying but at least we know the reasoning behind it then.

    Would be nice to know if it could be implemented for cars where it wouldnt be an issue.
    I often find myself on google to find which cars raced on which historic layout when Im feeling nostalgic...
     
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  9. Apex

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    That's a fair point, and it would be a stretch with regards to trackside aesthetics, adds and so on.

    However, if the default dates are left as they are they would represent the exact version i.e. the day Reiza took the snapshot of the track, the date range should only roughly represent the overall layouts. Roughly.

    But suppose I wanted to do a short custom championship set in, say, 1992. Going through the layouts in the track selector it takes me less than 20 seconds to pick:

    Adelaide 1985-1995
    Imola 1985-1994
    Jacarepaguá 1977-1994
    Silverstone 1991-1993
    Spa-Francorchamps 1983-1993

    You can do that with PC2. Strangely, you cannot set a date earlier than 1970 in-game (same in AMS2) but you can set the default date to anything you want by editing the text file.
     
  10. Apex

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    Ah well, I suppose as the game matures, more and more stuff will eventually be unlocked for us to customize. If/when it will be possible to edit track info I will happily do that and share the docs for those interested. Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to fix.
     
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