Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Version 35 with these changes: dt value has been adjusted, for less latency is now almost back to original value. RL_ and RR_ slide value adjusted. Brake_feel_follow_weight and accel_feel_follow_weight slightly lowered for dynamic braking and acceleration. Slide_threshold integrated into the custom file. Slip_crossover_line1_slope with #ausgeblendet. For me, this value makes no sense, and there are unwanted effects in the ffb. That's it, I wish you a lot of fun. Have a nice dayAddendum: This custom should work because the wrong code is not in it

 

Thank for feedback i'm really happy for you, the GRIP STRETCH is a nice file ... I hope as soon as possible to be able to stabilize the ATMOS V1.2 as the GRIP & STRETCH V2.1, there is no reason for this not to happen

In the meantime for now I have found further incorrect code in the ATMOS 1.2 and therefore in the next version 1.3 everything should be stabilized, updated and retuned ... we'll see

 

@Danielkart , sorry but where is linked the value (slide_threshold 0.15) .... if i not mistake, this varible is not present in all your file v35 and under in the lines of code is absent any instruction for "slide_threhold" ...

 

Sorry I have so many files, sent the wrong one without

 

Stakanov pointed out to me that my code is wrong. So forget my last file, sorry and thanks a lot Stakanov

 

If there is a way of reducing the amount of wheel shake on take off, that would be great. Everything else is pretty good, but the shake at take off is actually quite brutal. And that is the YAW and No YAW Atmos files. Thanks Stakanov, take care.

 

Yes, I know this aspect and it must certainly be reduced or strongly mitigated ... but you know why now it has come out and before no???
It is due to the addition of the new rear variables ... in particular the new suspension per wheel (mostly at rear) + the new road per wheel (mostly at rear) + the new bumps and kerbs per wheel (mostly at rear).
Before you did not feel it not becouse is ok but because the rear variables were not calculated and the suspension therefore did not bounce, now it does, and feel surface, bump, grip and others.

Is it just a defect or can it also be an advantage that only needs to be checked???

If you notice the same defect (annoying for now), on the same car, changes from track to track ... for example on the tracks with highly slippery roads the shaking is with fast frequency and medium force with long duration (Virginia), on the medium rough tracks the defect is with medium frequency, strong shake but not very long (Kansai), on highly rough tracks the defect disappears or is very short because the frequency is less and wheel grips immediatly and then the shake is near to zero (Ibarra).

Don't think of it as a defect or witch only an error, it is more a characteristic that must be balanced or better corrected with the right measure of coefficients, smooth, suspension, rubber, stretch, slip and grip ... we will get there, but first I have to balance the file permanently and make sure there are no more stupid trivial code typing errors (maybe this is already enough to eliminate it)
I don't know when, I hope as soon as possible ... and I will work on it because I want to eliminate it!! For example, now in ATMOS 1.2 I have already found 2 lines of wrong code in the bumps ... maybe it solves the jolt or the shake ... but I have to go home and try !!!

In the meantime, at the start, after the clutch release, turn up the accelerator a little!!!

 

Do you perhaps know whose files are for belt driven wheel bases? I suppose most people's file are for DD so it's easier to just name those for belt driven ones.

 

Hello rixx! For belt bases, I recommend Stakanov's files because he also has one

 

I'm asking because I'd like to avoid using files that are not suited for my wheel. Are there more file for belt driven wheels? I'm on the CSL DD btw.

 

Then you have a dd rixx no belt base. Then you can also try my latest version 35, with the values of "neurotic" it also has a csl dd. The values are in the file. And by the way, there is no such thing as a bad file, you can try and test everything. You just take what you like best

 

I know it's a DD ^^ I was just assuming most files are for DD, so it'd be easier to just name those for non DD. I thought the files are specifically tuned/developed for DD or belt driven, that's why I'm asking. Thanks anyway!

Indeed I need to try some things on the wheel base itself. I'm using Fanatec's recommended settings but they must be for default and default+. I think I will have to reduce FEI as Fanatec recommends 100%, it's probably a bit too much.

They also recommend NFR and NIN at 0, which I'll increase and see how it goes.

 

Indeed I need to try some things on the wheel base itself. I'm using Fanatec's recommended settings but they must be for default and default+. I think I will have to add

The values for the csl dd are in my custom file from a member (neurotic) in this forum. I'm sure he can give you more tips. Regards

 

Just sharing my settings, because I am always happy to find a recommendation specific to my wheel base to have a start. I don't have the time to dive into the custom files myself, so I am happy and thankful for everyones contribution. If there is only one person who finds my settings helpful, well here is my little contribution.

In the end FFB is a very subjective topic and my settings might not be for everyones taste. I am also still testing to find my own favourite settings. I will keep posting settings that worked for me when I give feedback to a custom.

With my settings I am trying to find good balance between dampening and FFB details. For Fanatec wheels you can use NDP and NFR for additional dampening that helps reduce/eliminate the oscillations. I tend to always have some on the wheel (NDP: 15 - 30, NFR: 0-10) but too much makes the wheel too heavy, so I try to keep them low. I rarely use NIN to add weight to the wheel, but sometimes a car with a very light wheel just needs a little bit of it and it feels better. Here in AMS2 also FEI has a big impact on how the customs feel. I ususally stick to the recommendation from the author and try to adapt to the CSL DD 8nm wheel base, but I also want to test higher FEI with some INT to counter the additional noise in the wheel. That's what I am going to test tonight.

 

I can agree with you about the fanatec settings. That's why I have 2 variants for the dd1/dd2. There are people who like to have more damping and lfb, which works very well in Ams2. Personally, I prefer to have almost no damping or no damping at all (for testing) only then do I have this feeling for the ffb and I can feel the finest differences

 

I get the shakes on the wheel only off the line or from a standstill if I spin. If I give it more throttle it just gets worse. I will try your earlier, non Atmos, files again, to try and pinpoint when it first started happening and let you know. Thanks for all your efforts.

 

My wheel started doing that at a stand still even with the Default or default + after the new .1 update to the game. I am about to test the Atmos, but I was still using the original rfuktor

 

so there are 3 variants in this thread?
DanielKart, mdecker79, both based off the latest file in Stakanov signature. Is that correct?
just trying to get the correct ones.

 

@Stakanov I tried the 4W Grip Mod file and there was very little steering wheel shake. Then I tried the 4W Grip And Stretch file and that one was much worse, but not quite as bad as the Atmos file. So it seems the problem has got progressively worse each change. For me anyway. I have used basically the same settings in each file. Hope this helps.

 

I have been testing the @Stakanov file tonight with various settings in the wheel. I find the feed back is good for the most part, and helps my lap times. The test for me of max feed back effort by the wheel is Turn 1 at Brands hatch. In EVERY other sim and both the default settings in AMS2 when you hit the bottom outside of the turn and nearly bottom out the car, you feel a strong outside force push the wheel out to the left.
With this file, no matter the settings, the only thing I feel is the curb. there seems to be little outside loads in the turns, even with the FFB in the game turned up to 90.
I am not an expert, but not sure where the outside load has gone?