Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    What is motion tactile feel?
     
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    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    The 3rd file should be for people for whom the street feedback is too strong. People with motion and tactile hardware but also for those who want it a little gentler. It is also the V46 because this file is very harmonious and the distribution of forces is very well balanced. In addition, the stability of the chassis harmonises very well with the suspension, which means that there is more control in the car. With adjusted street feedback in the file (2 adjusted values) and new in-game values
     
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    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    So what do I do if I want more feedback from the road?
     
  4. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    what kind of base do you have?
     
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    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    CSL DD and I also felt like the oversteer feeling was a little to much. It might be something which the custom FFB file is based on.
     
  6. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    There will be 3 new V50 files over the weekend. A file of it will be basen for up to 8Nm. So also for dd csl 8Nm
     
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    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    Thank you for your work
     
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  8. Grossi

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    Great work you are doing here!

    Have already tried quite a few files and also managed to adjust certain things to my taste.

    But what has bothered me so far with all custom ffb that I have tried, is the high steering resistance at slow turns. I like the high resistance in high downforce situations but at slow speeds I want a light wheel!

    I've already tried to get rid of that with no success.
    Please can someone help me? What parameters need to be changed?
     
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  9. Danielkart

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    As I said, the V50 will be specially tuned for power. What base do you have?
     
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    Ams2 is much more focused on the rear axle and on oversteer. It has to do with physics, which I personally like a lot
     
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  11. Grossi

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    I use a csl dd (8nm)
    ty for response. I will have a look at your new file.

    Still, any tips on which parameters I could mess around with for self-testing purposes to lower Steering Resistance on slow curving?
     
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    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    I understand. I did my own research before and it felt like the default FFB present was more based upon the front axle. I used to drive with default+, but I got a ton of oversteer feeling. The interesting thing was quite a bit of it went away when I switched to default
     
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    (angle_d_l (* angle_d_l 2.5))
    (angle_d_r (* angle_d_r 2.5))
     
  14. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Try increasing
    (normal_static_force_reduction 0.05) between 0.05-0.15
     
  15. Marcin

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    Hi what i need to change to lower the engine vibration?
     
  16. Danielkart

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    Hi guys! As promised, I'll post you my 4 new Customs files. After various tests it has now become V50. As I said before, I worked even more with the forces this time, I think it plays an important role for the ffb of a simulation. It used to be easier because there were only belt bases. Today with the dds that has changed a lot. There are bases from 2Nm to 30Nm and in my opinion not one single ffb file can compensate for this big difference. This power increases exponentially and an ffb file that works very well for dds will never be good for a low power base. And if an ffb file is very good for weak bases it will never be good for strong bases. That's why I decided to improve this disadvantage a bit. The 1st custom file is only for dds with high forces, tested with 12-13Nm peaks. The 2nd custom file is for belt bases and for dd bases up to 8Nm, tested with 6-8Nm. The 3rd custom file is again for high force dds, tested at 12-13Nm but with less road feedback for people with motion or tactile hardware or people who want it a little smoother. The 4rd custom file is only for belt bases of 2-5Nm tested with 4Nm peaks. I think with these files this big gap in power will be greatly improved. I also think that Reiza's defaults would benefit if there were differences in powers (Of course, that's just my opinion). Back to the V50 files. All based on the V46 but with some modifications and the result is really fantastic, incredible control over the car and the track. The counter pressure when braking in curves has been added again (many thanks to Alegunner68 for the hint). Various adjustments to the V50 files for a harmonious development of power. All 4 Customs with adjusted In Game values, and all 4 Customs with adjusted base values. My tip for these customs: adjust the power of an auto (gain) directly on the base. It is better to leave the vehicle-specific ffb in the game at 100%, otherwise it will change the (gain) in the game. This can lead to clipping when increasing or loss of FFB details when reducing. I deliberately left the flat spot at 0 again. If desired, this effect can be increased in the file (flatspots_scale 0.0). Now I wish you a lot of fun with the files and fast laps on the track.

    Best of Karsten Hvidberg V50 from Daniel for dd bases 10-30Nm

    Best of Karsten Hvidberg V50 from Daniel for belt and dd bases 5-8Nm

    Best of Karsten Hvidberg V50 from Daniel for dd bases 10-30Nm (Motion-tactile file)

    Best of Karsten Hvidberg V50 from Daniel for belt bases 2-5Nm
     

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  17. Morek

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    Thanks for yor work man, i use a DD Csl 8 nm , in the Fanatec driver, should i use „Peak or Linear“ Force ?
     
  18. Mikk Schleifer

    Mikk Schleifer Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Just wow Daniel, watch it and you even can feel it!!
     
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  19. Marcin

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    Hi Daniel. I have tried the 3rd file with my SC2 pro as i was looking for the smooth ffb and what i can say is just WOW!!! The ffb fells amazing! Great job!!!
     
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  20. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Is there a setting that can be changed so that the FFB will reduce to almost 0 when brakes are locked. There is the feeling of scrub or tear, but FFB does not reduce. I have tried all the latest Customs. Thanks.
     

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