VR Discussions, Questions & Feedback

I use a pico4 and coming from a rift s it looks brilliant. I have a 3070 laptop, so not the best, I use virtual desktop with hvec. Make sure in Steam vr settings to put resolution to manual and 100 per cent On Pico I run 90hz, virtual desktop at high and in game mostly low settings. This build of ams2 seems to stutter a bit more than before but performance is pretty good.

 

sorry but unfortunately unless I can change the resolution it still looks crap, and it's just going to make me feel sick which means I've wasted my money, surely there must be a way to change the resolution.

 

But Thank you for trying to help, it's much appreciated.

 

When you launch in vr you do realise that the resolution listed in the game settings is just for the monitor only and has no effect on the resolution of your vr? Mine also is set to 1080.

 

so how do I change the resolution in the game for VR

 

That depends how you are getting the game to the Pico. If you are using the built in streamer then I can't be much help as I never got it to work. But you want hvec on ultra and auto bitrate off and it set to maximum. Steam vr Resolution set to manual and 100 per cent and in game msaa on high, the rest on low, hardware depending of course.

 

I'm using virtual desktop to connect and I have it set to hvec and auto bitrate. i will try to play around with it a bit more and in graphicsconfigopenvrdx11.xml aswell , thank you for your help

 

Turn off auto bitrate... It will make your image horrible. In the XML on the rift I used 2.9 and it made a world of difference. With the higher resolution of the Pico I found anything above 1.0 looked really edgy.

I'm sure you will find settings to suit as the difference for me was massive.

 

I also make sure the space warp thing is off too in vd.

 

The challenge with VR is that there are so many places where you can change something that will result in a different quality of the image. I found these locations:

At the moment I have a reasonable / good image, but I still see some shimmering of buildings and tree. Cars further away could be crispier and brighter.
Also. OpenComposite, as a system-wide install, did not work. so OpenXR without OpenComposite does function, but the CPU load is higher than just SteamVR. With OpenXR I was CPU bound with a GPU headroom of more or less 30%. The Github page of OpenComposite states that it does function with AMS2, but I got an error and had to bypass it.
I choose to uninstall Nvidia Inspector. It gave me more options to explore (test) and I got the feeling that it wouldn't give me a better picture.
For the settings o SteamVR and AMS2 I looked at a lot of youtube videos.
So most of my time I spent changing the settings of the Graphicsdx11.xml file.
I found that info for the Pico 4 wasn't yet available and the settings in this file changed from type to type of VR headset.

 

@CrimsonEminence

Apologies for the tag, but I’m trying to get an issue with VR at least acknowledged, even if there’s no timeline for a fix.

A lot of people with Oculus headsets are trying to get OpenXR running in AMS2 as it can improve frame times and overall performance, as well as using VR tools like OpenXR toolkit.

The problem is, to get OpenXR to run, you need to launch in SteamVR mode. With an Oculus headset, this is not possible as the game launches in Oculus mode regardless off which runtime you choose.

You should be able to choose how VR launches and indeed in other sims you can, so there has to be a problem with how VR is loaded in AMS2.

Can you feed this back and provide any indication of the possibility of a fix please?

Thanks

 

I’ve got a very general upgrade question for you all.

I’m currently using a G2 on an Intel i9 9900k, 2080Ti with 32Gb Ram. Alongside OpenXR I’m actually very happy with what I’m getting if you overlook night/heavy rain races with headlights behind you. I also play MSFS 2020 in VR….infact I only play sims and only in VR.

I’m looking to upgrade and trying to decide whether it’s worth biting the bullet and going full on with the i9 13900k, 4090 and 64Gb Ram, which would cost a great deal or save some money and make a smaller, cheaper and more incremental upgrade. I’m not a follower of IT, PC tech trends so don’t know where I may be going overkill (on the new build) or what upgrades would serve best in terms of bang for buck - If it’s a new build rather than an upgrade the PC would be purely for sim/vr….the old/current one would be used for work.

This may be a bit in-depth for the AMS2 forums but you guys know how the game performs across a wide range of gear.

Cheers

 

After trying to fine tune the VR image of AMS 2 I start to think that the clarity and brightsness of this VR image is less then on monitors, is that correct? The objects in the near distance are crisp and sharp, but an image (of a car or parts of the track) at, let's say, 150m is blurry and grainy.

 

Your Pico 4 needs to compress the image over wireless or usb, so you're not comparing like-for-like when you look at the quality on your monitor.

 

I also have a Pico 4 and using a 4090. Just trying to fine tune my settings. I can't quite understand your settings though?

AA from 16x to 2x? The AA settings aren't set like that unless you meant AF?

Supersampling down to 4x? Do you mean you are supersampling at 4x the res? I can't imagine any GPU can manage that?

Texture quality, going to try that one now and see how it goes

 

After reading and trying to understand all the relevant possibilities of this nvidia-page I still didn't have a good image. So I looked at some social media. On social media there were people saying that shimmering is because of a highly defined texture (with serveral colors and smaller than the pixel). So the Pico doesn't know which color to show on that one pixel. And thus the color is changing all the time. That's why I turned down AA to 2x (and I had texture resolution turned down as well). So I found my settings with trial and error.
If somebody has better settings please share them. I can't get rid of the blurry and grainy images at a larger distance (> 150 m).

 

I know it compresses the data. Actually, I turned down the bitrate to 120 Mbps. So I had less latency. After a few weeks I turned it up to 150 Mbps and instantly I had better image quality.

 

Ah ok thanks, you are changing settings in the nvidia drivers? I leave all those as default and change stuff in the game itself.

the only way I have found to lessen the shimmering is by setting MSAA to high. It's the only thing which worked. Some then find the image to be a bit softer, but I just set virtual desktop sharpening to 50% You still get a little shimmering, but nowhere near as bad.

Changing textures made zero difference, at least to my eyes

 

Given you managed to get OC and OpenXR Toolkit working, you could try the CAS sharpening in the toolkit. A lot of people seem to prefer it. Start at 100% and lower it if it's too much. The CAS option sits alongside FSR/NIS in the menu

 

Thanks, I'll try it. Have a feeling it's either FSR/NI or CAS and I had planned on using NI at 90% or so