Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    The big trucks ffb may actually be clipping (judging by your description). I made a specific controller profile (SC2) for those due to the very strong ffb signal. Even reducing the Per-truck ffb to minimum (50%) may not reduce the strength enough.
     
  2. Danielkart

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    Yes that's right dean. Damping can help. But I don't like it when it has too much damping. It takes a lot of the ffb's information from me and makes it unnatural. It's a pity that the developers don't program it weaker in physics. With weaker bases it is not a problem but unfortunately with strong ones. But what you say is correct and I'm sure it can be helpful for some people
     
  3. Joaquim Pereira

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    I'll take that. Because people like this or that in the other sim and AMS2 is the only one capable of changing it's default behavior.
    Is not your job to please them, but it's a legitime desire.
    Just like CrewChief does, it's good to have an uniform interface between sims.

    Try putting this settings at zero:

    (bump_feel_follow_weight 0.50)
    (brake_feel_follow_weight 2.00)
    (accel_feel_follow_weight 4.40)

    In my file I've changed brake_feel_follow_weight because it causes low mass car to have very little to not brake feel.
    With the same wheel base, I have 80 in-game gain but my wheel's driver is at 65 gain. This way you can have all game dynamics. See tyres/suspension HUD, there's a FFB signal, try to reach the red in the last bar, but just barely - that's clipping and can/should occour for a brief moment in high suspension stress situations (like Formula Ultimate at Spa's Raidillon, for instance).

    As for different files/custom FFB, yes, stay with one and "learn" what it transmits. It's better than constantly change files. These from Daniel are very good indeed.
     
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  4. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    Fair enough. With the SC2, there is a sweet spot where the Damping stabilizes the steering without removing the FFB details. Some increase in FX can help too. If the steering response becomes to slow, then the Damping level is certainly too high. I'd say that margin is pretty narrow with FWD cars, in any case.
     
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  5. Danielkart

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    Fanatec also has this point to stabilize it. 18% cushioning and 6% friction are my recommendations for the base. I'm reluctant to use the in-game damping because I'd rather feel a lot of game FFB. And stabilizing the base is not possible with the in-game damping, not even at 50-100%. It also seems to me that Fanatec and Simucube work very differently. We could write books about just these attitudes ;)I advise people to test everything and stay where you feel best
     
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  6. Champrt78

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    Daniel, I am a big fan of your custom ffb file. Can you link me to your latest version please?
     
  7. jtortosen

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    For example, for simagic, the base config should be at 100% force. Because is not peak, is the full range, so the only option is adjusting ingame.
     
  8. Racinglegend1234

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    Check page 312
     
  9. ricxx

    ricxx Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Karsten Hvidberg doesn't seem to be active in here anymore, at least from what I can tell. I don't think he'd be upset if the FFB discussion would be going on in another fresh thread, where all the latest (and maybe also all previous versions) FFB files from all the different people could be found on page 1.

    This thread is full of useful information and you could still put a link in the OP and give all the deserved credit, but someone who's regularly active on the forums could open a new thread and update the OP once new files get posted. I just visited his profile, it seems he was on today, so maybe if he reads this it'd be nice if he just said if it'd be ok with him.

    All the files in one place, wouldn't be too bad. ^^ What do you think about this outrageous idea?
     
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    @Daniel: Have to say, really good job with the V60 file. It drives extremely nice and I am currently considering replacing my custom hybrid file of your V44 and V46 with this V60.
    Just one issue: The trucks are (more or less) completely broken, they have (almost) no force at all when turning even with high FFB settings. Something went wrong here for the trucks... I have read you want to take a pause from customs and that the V60 might be your final work but I really hope you can bring a V60.1 Hotfix with the Trucks fixed?!
     
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    Hello Maurice! As I said, I tested the V50 and V60 without trucks. I know they still felt normal in the 40's files. Is it already broken with the V50? or only with the V60? I won't be back at the rig until the weekend and will check it out then
     
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    I will of course correct it if I can, and thank you for pointing it out:)
     
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    Actually, I was thinking of taking a break from the Customs. But "monorious" and "Dady Cairo" drew my attention to the broken trucks. Now I could go to the rig for an hour at noon. Yes you are right the trucks are broken in V50 and V60. Recognized and fixed the problem immediately. And this change has resulted in fantastic new positive effects on all cars, I will then report to you. I'm surprised myself. Unfortunately I don't have much time this week but I'll post it to you at the weekend. After that I go on vacation to recover from the customs;)
     
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  15. kbasic

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    Danielkart you are the man my brother! Your custom file V60 is the best work you've done to date. I have a DD2 and I must say that it brings out the best FFB detail of any game I've played. You deserve the Custom FFB File of the year award! Thank you for a job well done sir.
    By the way I'm a 50 year old sim racer who still enjoys gaming!
     
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    Wait until the even better "final" edition this weekend ;)
     
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    Hey kbasic! Thank you for your feedback. By the way, I'm even older than you, 55 years old. I don't think it has anything to do with age, the main thing is that it's fun. There are a lot of older guys in sim racing. Or like a fine wine, the older the better;)
     
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  18. Periophtalmus Spintirus

    Periophtalmus Spintirus [3DP]BumbleBee AMS2 Club Member

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    Just a bit OT...
    I'm 59 and still have much fun driving around with various sims
    ...who can show me more? :whistle:
     
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    And I'm 66 and still love racing too. :) Keep up the great work @Danielkart. Hope to be able to try your updated v60 this weekend.
     
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    Lots of older players here in the forum which is good :) I already changed the V70 files on Tuesday and will try to post them tomorrow evening. Maybe I'll adjust the karts a bit. The files will bring many benefits especially for Trucks, FWD, 4WD and Karts. Small intervention but a big effect, I'll tell you more about it tomorrow
     
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