Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. dMASS

    dMASS Member

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    @Kuku Maddog was it

    (sa_delta_rack (* (/ 1 (* dt 333)) (- steering_angle_rack old_sa_rack)))
    (sa_delta_l (* (/ 1 (* dt 333)) (- steering_angle_l old_sa_l)))
    (sa_delta_r (* (/ 1 (* dt 333)) (- steering_angle_r old_sa_r)))
    changed from 600 to 333?

    or maybe

    (rack_friction (* damping 0.8))
    changed from 1.0?
     
  2. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    with the tires being better or less stiff feeling , I find no need for the 600 alteration anymore , and it’s tighter around rotation moments without it .

    friction value is only minor , nothing a couple more clicks of damping slider wouldn’t restore.

    Oversteer and understeer scales were lowered , which could feel lighter around centre perhaps , could add 0.2 on both and see if it helps .

    I’ve found some velocity res values that feel better while sticking to normal values , and still maintaining the effect of resistance gradually getting less as the speed increases but reduces loosening of center .
    but haven’t widely tested different vehicles yet as focused on an upcoming race and time is limited .

    I can’t remember of the top of my head what they are , will check later or maybe just upload .
     
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  3. dMASS

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    nice! looking forward to it. good luck with the race
     
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    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    further testing reminded me why I went the way I did previously.
    with Fast formula cars like the G2 I don't like the way the steering would get stiff and over sensitive as you reach high speed using regular values. it robs you have fidelity and feels unnatural imho.

    I've kept it the same way as before, but added some more center full to counteract any looseness.
    returned a couple of scales to my preference, so you might need to adjust to suit you.

    I've packed it all together with Read Me file that was missing and will post below.
    This should do me until 1.6 update :D
     
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  5. dMASS

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    Legend! I'll try it out out soon. I revisited your pre 1.5 custom and the centre feels perfect there, I think if you can get the centre feel back like that with the way your post 1.5 custom is now it would be perfect
     
  6. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Last ( I'm reasonably sure ;)) edit of post 1.5 update rFuktor 5.0.1.3 Kuku Tune.

    Fully compatible with all content, easily adjustable and tunable to suit your taste and wheel base.
    Thanks to Reiza team :hurrayreiza: for for great work on 1.5 update and balancing the new content and FFB adjustments to be consistent with what we are used too, which helps immensely.
    and Thanks again to @Karsten Hvidberg & co for the foundation which just keeps on doing the job.
     

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    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    What would you say are the differences between your file and danielkart’s one?
     
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    For me the standout difference is the grip loads and tire connection to the track
     
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    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    In what way? I don’t fully understand
     
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    Weight in the wheel and scrub texture when turning
     
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    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    Ah ok. Thanks for the info and will check it out
     
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    Brilliant work man! thankyou kuku custom settings dd2 post 1.5.jpg
     
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    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Here's my final file for 1.5, there are some radical changes that work well for the old csw 2.5 belter, hopefully there's still some out there to give it a go as I like how it turned out.Turn the ffb down to about 70 in the rx set up menu and it works well for those as well.
    Warning: Not suitable for DD wheels, as there are reports of oscillations.
    Edit: Uploaded tweaked file.
     

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  14. Kurupt CDN

    Kurupt CDN Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I've been using your tweaked file with my Thrustmaster TX and it feels pretty good, looking forward to trying out your new one.
    Cheers
     
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    Made a few adjustments, don't think I'll touch it again as every car feels great now, having a blast!

    -increased gain, lfb and damper, then decreased fx.
    -increased INT
    -added 50% more scrub_scale for more tire texture
    -decreased smoothing on
    (m_FL_load (smooth FL_load_norm)
    (m_FR_load (smooth FR_load_norm)
    to feel a litttle more bump sharpness kuku custom settings dd2 post 1.5 rev2.jpg kuku custom settings dd2 post 1.5 rev2 changelog.jpg
     

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    momorious Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thats what you said numerous times already and yet you are still uploading new customs daily, sometimes several times a day. :D
     
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    momorious Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hey!
    I tried you new file with my DD2 as I was blown away by your previous work and unfortunately this new file creates massive oscillation (which is actually quite dangerous) and in general a very dampened feel.
    So this new file might work for CSW but is definitely not good for DD (which your previous file was).

    Here a video of the "new" file which creates this dangerous oscillations:


    And here a video of the "old" file which was just fantastic on my DD2 without any oscillations, it was super stable where you could even actively try to get oscillations but it just would never oscillate but straightens itself agaiin.

     
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  18. dMASS

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    "don't think" lol. sorry if my posts have felt spammy. It's more of an educational exercise for me in case anyone can point to things I'm doing wrong or could do better
     
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    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Sorry to hear that, :( I have put a warning on my post.
    What car were you in?
     
  20. momorious

    momorious Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Actually it happens with every car...
    Have deleted the new file and went back to your "old" file with some adjustments from me which works phenomenal on my DD2, will include it in my official FanaLab profile pack :)
     

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