Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    As I mentioned above, the in-game and base settings are very important and should be adjusted to the different customs otherwise you will have problems
     
  2. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    I don't think he means the flat spot because he doesn't have any problems with it with Default+. And the defaults are very aggressive in this respect, after a short time you only feel the flat spot and a lot of other FFB is lost - everything is covered up. That's why I left the flat spot at 0, even with this setting it is still there but within a reasonable range
     
  3. ju gnot

    ju gnot New Member

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    Yeah !! So nice :) Happy to share with you. Just to tell you, since the latest file, i just modified it in order to increase Front and Rear Stretch feel (around 3 for each value). It is even better feeling when turning or brake. Have a nice moment with your steering wheel... and don't forget your wife :) :)
     
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    ju gnot New Member

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    Hi Joaquim. Yes i agree, i have tested Default and Default+... quite desapointed. Let's continue with our FFB custom. Hope you feel R12 great into your hands :)
     
  5. ju gnot

    ju gnot New Member

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    Hi ! I have a T818 too and worked a lot to modify the file i used for my TS PC Racer. Here it is, you can try it. See you :) (you have my recommanded settings in the bottom of the file)
     

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    ju gnot New Member

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    Hi ! I think this is "velocity_res_offset" (how much resustance at velocity 0)
    I have a T818 too and produced a specific file for it. You can check if you want. You have my specific recommandations in the bottom in the file. Cheers
     

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  7. Rocket455Man [FIN]

    Rocket455Man [FIN] New Member

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    That vibration starts from pit leaving in Daniel's file.:D

    Yours v7 file works fine with small vibration.

    And I am using that v7 file.

    That 0.3 feels better.

    My settings are now:
    gain 60
    lfb 25
    fx 50
    damping 5
     
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  8. lianjieyiqie

    lianjieyiqie Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Sorry, I didn't provide a complete description of my settings yesterday. At that time, I just wanted to confirm that situation. If it was really a special feature, I would accept it. If it is my case, I will try to find the problem on my device. My base is MOZA R16, because I know that the driver/firmware of MOZA is not very good, so my main purpose is to determine if it is a problem with my R16.
    In game: 62-0-20-0
    I tried files 5-7 V500, although the strength was different, the situation was the same.
    Moza Pithouse:
    Max steering angle 1080
    road sensitivity 9 (I don't like 100Hz)
    Game FFB Intensity 100
    Max Wheel Speed 30% & 100%
    Max Output torque limit 80%
    Natural Inertia 100%
    Others 0/OFF
    Describe: In fact, the feel of the steering wheel in the central area is very good (-90 to 90). But when I try to rotate more than 90 degrees, I start to feel a noticeable elastic resistance that increases with the angle. It is almost unaffected by the actual condition of the vehicle, even if I can feel the vehicle lose control and another normal force is changing, but this elastic resistance always exists. When I want to pass through a hairpin, I usually need to turn it 150-180 degrees, and then I find that the resistance is too strong for me to turn the steering wheel.
    Then I realized that it seemed to only affect the angle, and when I rotated less than 90 degrees, it was weaker, so I couldn't feel it. When the rotation exceeds 90 degrees, I can feel it. When the rotation approaches 180 degrees, it is too large and almost uses the maximum torque. This is so strange, that's why I wanted to determine if it was a problem with the ffb profile or my R16.
    Then I used files from several others and found that only two or three were not like this. When the car is stationary, it will not be like this. At 70km/h in first gear, this situation will occur.
    I took two screenshots and am not sure if they are useful. Above is V500, below is JP FullFFB V7.
    (Actually, before that, I made a video specifically for players in my country yesterday, introducing how to use custom ffb profiles and how to download files from DanielKart and others. As a result, I first encountered an unknown problem myself.:D)
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  9. lianjieyiqie

    lianjieyiqie Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    My country's players are particularly sensitive to one thing, which is that when their hands leave the steering wheel, the steering wheel will vibrate violently, which we all call "death swing".
    When I use default, it usually appears after 3-10 seconds. When I use default+, it usually only takes 0.5-2 seconds.
    It doesn't really matter to me.
    Yesterday when I used V500, the "death swing" disappeared, and when I used JP V7, it reappeared.
    I have found that all profiles have a strong centring force, which causes the steering wheel to sway more and more uncontrollably when the hand leaves the steering wheel. However, when using V500, although the centering force around 180 degrees is particularly strong, when the steering wheel is close to the center position, this force is almost eliminated and will not cause the steering wheel to rotate to the other side, thus avoiding the occurrence of "dead swing"
     
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  10. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Well recognized one of the main reasons why the defaults are not an option for me. And this swing will only get worse the more in-game dampening you use
     
  11. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    About your settings. From what I understand you are using about 12.8 Nm on your base and using file 6 ? These are of course great forces. In this case I would reduce the force at the base a bit, but if you still want to keep the 12.8 Nm then test file 7 or 8. The higher the file the less forces there will be
     
  12. Calypso Dawson-Tobich

    Calypso Dawson-Tobich New Member

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    First of all nice work, love your custom ffb profile.
    I use file 4 (8-9) in line with my r9 but if I go to file 5-6 the forces will be lower and if I went to a lower file the forces would be higher, am I understanding that correctly?
     
  13. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that's exactly how it is Calypso!
     
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  14. deekracer

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    What a conundrum! What a difference these ffb files make.

    Hard to tell which custom ffb is the best. I drive with a Simagic Ultra and just tried v500 8. I am also testing the latest rFuktor release. They each are very similar, yet each is unique. With both, you really gotta find new ways to drive. I liked default+, but custom ffb makes it a completely different experience. With these files, you react to how the tires meet the track via the steering wheel. I love bumpy tracks now!
    Lovely problem to have. Guess I'll have to do lots of testing.
     
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  15. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    it’s worth testing the file in my signature if you run a simagic, just be aware it’s customised for easy in game adjustments with damper slider used for level of suspension feedback.
     
  16. deekracer

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    Love the sliders! It's an entirely new sim. looking forward to lots of testing. So many cars, so many tracks! First world problem.
     
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  17. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys!

    Finally, I'll post you my personal V500 for my Simucube 2 Pro.Depending on the car and route, I use around 11-13 Nm and only reduce or increase the gain at the base.Of course you can also use another base with this file.I recommend this file for bases from around 9Nm.

    Everything is based on my personal experiences and personal preferences and does not have to match your taste.The most important thing is your own taste only then it will be right, no matter which file.

    I wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year and have fun with Ams2:)

    Daniel
     

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  18. Knut Mattheisen

    Knut Mattheisen New Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi Dani,

    great work again!
    This file is a lot better than the DEFAULT or DEFAULT+ on my DD1.
    I love it! Many thx for your great job! :);)

    Knut

     
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  19. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Hey Knut!
    Thank you, greetings from Switzerland to Germany ;)
     
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  20. Calypso Dawson-Tobich

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    Thanks for this one, works nicely with my moza R9.
    This will be the profile I use going forward, really does let you feel everything through the FFB.
     
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