VR Discussions, Questions & Feedback

Until recently I would've wholeheartedly recommended the Reverb G2, but with Windows deprecating WMR in a couple of years... It's criminal that they're giving up on what was the only other affordable & good PCVR option. HP Reverb G2 was one of a kind, it was perfect.

Microsoft is run by cretins.

 

I had also considered the reverb as upgrade from my Q2 but at that time stupid Microsoft made the announcement about WMR deprecation so I moved to Pico with zero regret
It’s a great versatile device

 

Strange to read. I mostly read good things about the quest 3.

 

I'm pretty sure it requires WiFi6. I got router that is also recommended by the Virtual desktop devs, didn't even try with 5g based on what I have read. With this router though, I have had zero wifi related issues, I don't notice any additional latency or compression artifacts. I can use better encoder that minimizes those issues like this and can have 500 encoding bitrate too.

I did have to use OpenXR toolkit and optimize the use of foveated rendering to get the peformance I need (and similar to what I got with link cable setup earlier where I limited the fov heavility in the oculus debug tool)

ps. what comes to latency, I think I would had noticed if it would had increased significantly as I have learned to be quite sensitive to those things, especially input latency from other game genres where it matters

 

Virtual Desktop definitely doesn't require WiFi 6 to work well, but it obviously it gives you better bandwidth. WiFi 5 worked just fine back in the days before 6, and continues to do so, but you do need a (relatively) beefy router that can keep up with it, and having a 5GHz band to yourself is preferable. If someone is running just an ISP router I would not expect a very good wireless VR experience.

 

We'll, I just know that I have zero issues with my setup and most likely culprint is is the wifi / router quality. In any case, the headset here is not the bottleneck.

AXE5400 Tri-Band 6-Stream Wi-Fi 6E Router this was the router I got. It wasn't even that expensive compared to a lot other similar options. It was a bit difficult decision to invest into wifi router as I wasn't sure do I get money's worth or will it work in sim racing good enough. Fortunately it exceeded my expectations. I have better 5g now than before, 6g for pcvr stuff that works without hickups, including sim racing and also the possibility to charge the headset at the same time when racing and being wired doesn't matter.

I have heard that those with 4090 can get better quality with the link cable setup (using the AV1 encoding), but that is WAY more expensive solution and you still need to get some solution to have enough battery life for longer sessions.

 

Same here. I see the wheelguns from afar but nobody holding them. Thought this would be a LOD issue, but now that you´re saying so... could it be Quest (3) only?

 

I have almost the exact set up as you with the 4090/ AMD 5900x CPU, it may very well be the Quest 3

 

Same GPU and I am also on Link cable, but completely different CPU.

I have no clue of coding but I always thought that things like this should be the same on all systems. Or could it be the Meta software?

There are more games in which I feel I have LOD issues that are not there in pancake mode. ACC and ETS2, to name just a few. Could it be a VR thing? Is LOD calculation any different in VR?

 

I'm experiencing something strange with my VR. Within the last week.
I use a reverb G2 with OpenComposite to bypass steam VR. Up until last week, the day before the latest update actually it's worked flawlessly. I don't have the fastest system, so I run VR with lower settings and resolution, but I had a steady 70-65 fps.

So starting last week, every 10 minutes or so, the game will stutter bad for 2 or so seconds, and sometimes the headset will go black. Then it'll come back and keep functioning as normal, great performance as always. Anyone else experiencing this?

 

I also experienced this in both desktop and VR with my Q2!a couple of days ago
ALT TAB and back to Game did the trick to get framtimes smooth again

I had a long session with my Q2 last night and no issue

 

Hi all, I want to try VR and I am not sure what would be better for my PC, if getting the better Quest2 glasses and lower the settings until I get good frame rates or buying the older Rift S and be able to play at higher settings but with the lower quality that this model offers. I've never tried any of these glasses so I was wondering if some of you could give me an idea of what's better, or have a similar system to mine and can tell me how does the corresponding model run. I will mainly use the glasses with AMS2 or iRacing, maybe Skyrim as well

Specs: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz, 24 GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB

Also I have no plans of upgrading my PC any time soon. Thanks a lot for your help!

 

Well, by far and no discussion here, your main limiting factor will be your GPU's VRAM. I would know since I used to run VR on a laptop with the exact same GPU. You will be severely limited and often you will just straight up run out of VRAM and crash - this might include AMS2 as well.

Now, I have no experience with Zuck's headsets, but I've heard the proprietary VR software can eat up a lot of VRAM, leaving you with even less for gaming - not sure if that's the case nowadays.

One huge downside I see is that the Rift S is quite an old headset. God forbid something breaks, it's unlikely you'll find any replacement parts or help. And it's part of the old squad of headsets with clear screen door effect and low FOV.

Unfortunately I can't answer your question as I only have experience with WMR, but I think these are important points to consider

 

Go with a 2nd hand QUEST2 is my advi e
Thats what brought me to VR and i loved ot so much that i upgraded my PC hardwate to makemost of it
Your 2060 is weak for VR but you will be able to reduce rendered resolution and adjust in game graphics to reach decent fps i am sure
I dont know where you are but over here where i live they now can be found for 100usd equivalent for the 64gb model
Its a no brainer if you find similar offer

 

I used to have a Rift CV1 with an i7 8700k and a gtx 1080ti with 16gb ram. I could play AMS2 and PCars 2 with a steady frame count of 90. Not on the highest setting but it run wonderfully well.

 

Night races with 32 cars on track:

The only way i was able to get a stable 72 fps with my Quest 3 in Virtual Desktop on a 3060 Ti is setting the quality to Potato, all on Low / Off, just still keeping Anti-alliassing at Medium and screen-scaling at 1.5 in the game, otherwise my fps was at 60 or even below.

 

You can try limiting the fov with Oculus Tray Tool. I use %70-75 vertical fov and it gives huge headroom. Thus, you can increase the other settings.

 

Thanks all for the help, I finally bought a second hand Quest 2, I'll report about performance once it arrives if people are interested

 

Hello, using openXR, if I set in the opencomposite.ini file the setting hiddenMeshVerticalScale = 0.7, then it doesn't work.
Is it working on your side?
Thanks

 

I am using the Archer AX73 from tp link. All my other devices i made sure to put them on the 2.4G and i keep the Quest and only the quest on the 5g band. It looked like a capable router but maybe i'm just to sensitive with latency. Perhaps Wifi 6 would be much better but i don't really want to upgrade just for that because this router is pretty new.

Maybe i'm using the wrong settings within the router but it has been quite a while since i even tried wireless and i just stick with the link cable.

I would like to get it working as good as people claim it works. VD has all kinds of cool features i wouldn't mind trying out.

Is Virtual desktop VDXR usable with a link cable?