Missing texture and shader in Tarumã lake and trees do not appear in Nurburgring environment map

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  1. Dan BushDog

    Dan BushDog New Member

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    Hello! I've been loving the current physics, new shaders and the Le Mans track!
    But I noticed that the lake in Tarumã is black for some reason. I checked the game's integrity on Steam 3 or four times, reinstalled the game and it's still like that:
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    I also noticed that several tracks have reflections of trees on the cars, both in AMS2 and PC2. But at the Nurburgring it practically doesn't have them:
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    I thought it was due to the configuration, but it doesn't change anything. But the reflection of the trees is ok on other tracks:
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    Forgive me if I'm being too nitpicky, the game is wonderful, but I just want to know if it's just happening to me and if there's a way to solve it
     
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    CrimsonEminence Administrator Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Nothing nitpicky about it, thanks for reporting!
     
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  3. Horia M

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    Yeah that was a great spot, especially the Nurburgring trees! :eek:
     
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    If you want nitpicky let me tell you about the confused vendor at Donington Park, with their wares in an area where spectators are not allowed. The vendor's takings for the race day are underwhelming ;)
     
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  5. Dan BushDog

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    My fear of being nitpicky is because when I was scrolling through Steam community, I saw some very nonsensical criticism about the gameplay and physics. I didn't want to be the one to criticize the graphics.

    And I didn't want to be unfair to the game. I play with a standard Xbox joystick and have never had any problems. Most of the criticisms were about the game being bad for the joystick, I think the problem would be that it's bad on the steering wheel (a simulator being good on the joystick I consider it a bonus), but on the joystick it's wonderful! I feel like buying a cheap steering wheel to start!

    The graphics look beautiful on my 3060ti at 144p! I only noticed this detail about the reflections, because I was amazed by the photos I took at LeMans, and I wanted to do it again at the Nurburgring, Tarumã and Interlagos!

    The reflections of the trees help a lot with the atmosphere!
     
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    I noticed that on tracks where trees don't appear on the environment map, they only appear in the cockpit camera, hood and roof camera.

    I saw that the same thing happens in Spa, no reflection from the trees:
    ss025011.jpg *Pic of the cockpit in AMS2. Reflections of trees in the car.

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    ss023841.jpg ss023915.jpg ss024819.jpg
    *More pics of Spa. No reflections of trees.

    In Monza there are a lot of tree-lined corridors! And the reflections are there:
    ss024503.jpg ss024453.jpg ss024346.jpg
     

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  7. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    Maybe it’s due to them not being 3D trees
     
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  8. Dan BushDog

    Dan BushDog New Member

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    Yes, you're right! I did a test in Interlagos! Polygonal trees reflect here:
    ss071249.jpg ss071312.jpg
    But on the same track the billboard trees don't reflect ss071444.jpg On the opposite side of these same billboards, there are polygonal models further away that are reflecting
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    So that's it, as Spa and Nordschleife are entirely populated by billboard trees, reflections are ignored.
     
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  9. Dan BushDog

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    But switching to the roof camera, all 2d billboards are reflected in the car
     
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    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    So it’s a mixture of 2D trees and the camera view
     
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    I found these 2d billboards in Interlagos for a test. They appear on the roof camera, but disappear on the chase camera and track cameras 1066890_20240417080410_1.jpg
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    Nordschleife too
    1066890_20240417080629_1.jpg 1066890_20240417080636_1.jpg In the previous post I put a similar example in Spa.

    Well, I hope it's clear that I just wanted to make sure that the textureless lake in Tarumã, and the missing trees in the chase camera reflections were a bug and that it was in my system.

    I still think the game is amazing! And I'm not even bothered by the Billboard trees! Because they are so beautiful, and so natural-looking, that I thought many of them in Spa and Nordschleife were polygonal! Only after doing these tests did I learn to identify 2d Billboards in this game!
     
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    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    Well this will help them improve the game even more. I would say that we all should do these things and point it out
     
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  13. Dan BushDog

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    I hope so! I'm amazed by the photorealism of Project Cars 2 and Automobilista 2! For me, it's proof that raytracing to create realistic reflection and global illumination is more like a crutch made of lead!
     
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    Now I went racing at Suzuka, and I saw that all the trees were billboards and were reflecting on the car: 1066890_20240418025142_1.jpg 1066890_20240418025226_1.jpg 1066890_20240418025441_1.jpg 1066890_20240418025500_1.jpg
    I thought it was due to the choice of car, but racing with that same car at Spa and Nurburgring the reflexes no longer appear. It must be some kind of render to texture that ignores the trees from being rendered in the car's environment map.

    Look how beautiful the sun is coming from behind the trees! It will be my new wallpaper!
    1066890_20240418031916_1.jpg
     
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