Road to V1.6 Hype Train (cont.)

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Rodger Davies, Oct 16, 2024.

  1. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    We get whatever they add to the beta. Normally that means the whole update, but it doesn’t include everything from the start
     
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  2. Wu!

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    This whole premise of: "Oh we should not hype it because some people may disagree or get too excited!" is slightly odd.

    People's expectations are their own responsibility. I've not seen many claims that V1.6 will be the best thing ever since sliced bread (AC Evo is, obviously), and even if there were, who cares? This is the internet after all, everything goes! The development threads have proven as much.

    It's mostly people expressing they think V1.6 is a significant upgrade over V1.5, and sharing some of their own excitement on that. Any conclusions and expectations people wish to attach to whatever anybody says is their prerogative and they may or may not be disappointed when V1.6 eventually gets released.

    The same thing would be true if it got released out of the blue. Arguably it would have prevented the: "Oh!!! But you said summer!!!" discussions and all its derivatives, but alas, here we are. Still, people would either like it or not, but it's much more interesting if you can set it up to be something like: "Oh but you said it would be great and I think it's not!" once V1.6 drops, I get it.

    You'd think we're in a life or death situation here with all the vitriol about how incredibly unacceptable this all is and the astonishing amount of mental anguish and suffering these delays are causing. The topic at hand is an update to a video game. In the grand scheme of things, it probably should not be a rather significant part of your life and not impact much of anything truly important.

    It gets a bit silly.
     
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  3. DannyDB

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    I feel the same way. It's a video game update—if that's the biggest issue, it means you don't have enough real problems. Of course, everyone is free to express their opinion, but how you express it defines who you are.

    As I see it, the deal with IMSA allowed Reiza to raise the bar and make AMS2 something special.

    The team's ambitions are probably too big for Reiza’s current production capacity, which explains the delay.

    It’s also worth mentioning that the amount of content already in the game is substantial, and updating everything to the new standard takes time and requires extensive testing.

    In the meantime, I’m enjoying the smaller categories, and every now and then, I launch a multiclass endurance race—there’s certainly no shortage of fun!
     
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  4. wegreenall

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    Here is a question for the beta-people. Would you say that it is easier to improve your times in the beta? The impression I get from what people have said is that yes you have to watch your tires, but it feels like the improvement in intuition and predictability of the driving means it might be easier to go fast when the tires are in "the window" (i'm simplifying I know). This is definitely the impression I get in the (half-finished) FUG2. Would beta people agree this is the case? (i'm looking at you RacingLegend1234 I know you like time trials!)
     
  5. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    Well since you said my name I think I should answer
    Everything becoming more predictable and having more grip before traction loss makes it easier to gain confidence and also go quicker. The video I’m uploading tomorrow shows the result of driving high performance cars in V1.6 and then coming back to V1.5. It’s quite a big difference in how easy they are to drive
     
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  6. Wu!

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    I can only speak for me personally, and I do not drive the FUG2 a lot because I'm old and those things are too fast for me, but in general I find it harder to be consistently fast because there are more things to go "wrong" in general.

    Am sometimes shocked how much faster I can be in V1.6 from lap to lap while in V1.5 I found it much easier to be let's say within 0.5 secs in TT. This also has to do with tire temps and other things, in general there are just a lot more variables to take into account to go fast.

    It got less forgiving I would say, but more rewarding if you get it right. At least I stopped spinning out because my braking technique apparently sucked, only took a few months ;)
     
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    Wu! Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    You're a better driver than I am :) I get in trouble much more. I do agree grip loss is much more predictable, and in general what the car will or wants do, you feel it far better. Problem is by then I braked too deep into the corner and try to rotate the car or any other variation of improper driving, and there the back goes, or I just plow in a straight line because understeer has become a thing ;)

    If you do things properly, yeah it's "easy" but it gets a lot less easy while also trying to go really fast.
     
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  8. wegreenall

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    Yeah i get the impression that you can really feel the improvement in the slow corners - e.g. the chicane at Barcelona or oaktree bend at VIR... or turn 3 at Silverstone national, or Luffield, or the turn onto the main 'straight' at Interlagos...
     
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    Out of curiosity, which cars? Some classes got faster, but overall I feel most classes got slower in V1.6, lap time wise. I can't touch many times I did before in V1.5.

    This is true, slow corners are much much better. Does not feel like a spoon in a pan of soup anymore, I can even get around the last corner of Donington GP these days, feeling somewhat in control.

    In the end I guess that is because the back does not step out constantly for no reason.
     
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    I’m not talking about being faster than V1.5, but just being a faster driver relative to my first laps. As in how much I can improve
     
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    For me the physic is off. Every other gt3 sim racing, my front are stable. But am2 has a weird float front behaviour
     
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  12. wegreenall

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    This make me very excited - i really find slow corners are where I find it hardest to understand what kind of rotation I'm going to have. The number of times I've turned in too early at the aforementioned oak tree bend just is too many. Your example of Donington is a great one!
     
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    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    This is a common complaint which IMO is fixed in V1.6
     
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  14. Wu!

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    Most of my turn-in problems have been solved with V1.6 because I do not fear the rear doing something I feel to be "weird stuff" anymore, it's far more consistent and you can rely much more on the back end sticking.

    Up to a point of course, if you're going to overwhelm the rears with too much throttle and/or steering angle, things will go as expected.
     
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  15. MrGit

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    Well, this is where your all hiding now!

    Back from the expo which was a blast, lots of VERY informative off the record chats with loads of people, did get recognised a few times and quizzed about 1.6 but they went away empty handed so no worries there.

    Shame Reiza/AMS2 wasn't represented in some way though as the interest was most definitely there I found, maybe next year...these guys let me get properly hands on with this wheel though, guess they don't know me. :D

    *it costs €10,000 bty*

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    Have I missed anything while I've been away and is that hype train staying on the tracks ok?
     
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  16. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    This is EXACTLY what happened to me in my video. The rear did weird stuff
     
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  17. Wu!

    Wu! Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    The hype train needs no tracks, nothing will stop it :)
     
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    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    Unstoppable object
     
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    Only when Steam will notify us for a download on AMS2 o_Oo_O
     
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  20. wegreenall

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    This is the hype train now!
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    It is also incidentally also the next car to be announced for the endurance pack pt 2
     
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