Official General AI Comments & Discussion Topic

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Renato Simioni, Feb 1, 2021.

  1. mr cheese

    mr cheese Member

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    Try it with tire wear off. I had a similar issue doing an endurance race at Daytona and cars were consistently pitting with like half a tank left. Turned off tire wear and now they go right down to the very last lap of fuel.
     
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  2. JavierZumaeta

    JavierZumaeta Active Member

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    right. x2 fuel and authentic tire wear will also work well. In some cars the AI is just very sensitive about running with worn tires with some cars. authentic fuel + tires is necessary at LeMans.
     
  3. Luciano Santos Filho

    Luciano Santos Filho Active Member

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    I appreciate your attention and will to help, but I am not interested in simulate an endurance race with tyre wear turned off.

    I expect the sim to simulate the AI drivers' behavior in a way that is coherent with the settings chosen.
     
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  4. JavierZumaeta

    JavierZumaeta Active Member

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    authentic fuel and tires work as intended at LeMans. you don't have to turn off tire wear.

    Everywhere else you can do x2 fuel and tires - authentic tire wear will bring best results in most cases.
     
  5. mr cheese

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    For me post 1.6, AI are consistently pitting for tires with about have a tank of fuel left on any track. Plus, if you’re using the AI co driver, there’s currently a bug where tire wear is not reset when swapping from player to co driver. So if you want to do 1:1 endurance races with authentic stint time, unfortunately tire wear needs to be turned off for now.
     
  6. JavierZumaeta

    JavierZumaeta Active Member

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    oof, well, I mean, I don't have time to do a 1:1 simulation of a 24 hour race! lol. 2.5 hours is more than enough for me for sure. x2 Fuel and authentic tire wear 100% of time the AI will not pit with half a tank left. This lets me simulate a full 24 hour race to my heart's content.
     
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  7. Luciano Santos Filho

    Luciano Santos Filho Active Member

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    I don't think it's track related. It happens to some of the cars. In the image I posted, the Ligier and Ginettas seem to be acting coherently.

    I had another race at Interlagos in which only the P4 cars did that, every other car was doing OK.

    Which is well, very messed up, I hope it gets fixed soon. If turning the tyre wear off solves the problem and there is a certain consistency in cars pitting with half of the tank left, it could be that the devs should look for cars with tyre wear parameters messed up.
     
  8. JavierZumaeta

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    100% it needs to be sorted. But I'm fairly confident running authentic tire wear will give you the desired results.
     
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  9. mr cheese

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    My roommate and I try to do a full 24hr once or twice a year if we can find the time. If you’re into endurance racing, this game really is a gem despite its flaws. There’s nothing else like blasting down musanne at 3am, feeling dat fatigue, and knowing you’re only half way there. But yeah the hardest part these days is just finding the time
     
  10. carloscepinha

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    Any news regarding pit stop strategy?

    I was doing a LMDh + GT3g2 80m 1h20m race and had x2 tire x2 fuel.
    I notice the AI pitting after 20min leaving me in front with a 2second lead.

    I know that in case of AC, you actually need to setup a race weeked and leave the cars to practice a bit in the practice session and qually session in order for them to sort out fuel usage and tyre usage and have a logical setup for the race, but after that their setup will make sense.

    I'll try giving the AI a nice practice session to see how things go.
     
  11. Luciano Santos Filho

    Luciano Santos Filho Active Member

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    I was using authentic tyre wear and fuel consumption.
    I think that what you mean is that, as a workaround, use authentic tyre wear with 2x fuel consumption. Well, it's a workaround, but not ideal.
     
  12. Luciano Santos Filho

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    Well, that's similar to what we discussed in the previous posts. It seems to be an issue in v.1.6, although 20 min isn't that bad with accelerated consumption. But apparently, as a workaround, you should try authentic tyre wear while keeping fuel consumption in 2x.

    Please let us know about your experience letting the AI practice, but I don't think it will help in AMS2. The AI seems to always leave the pits with qualy fuel during practice, they do like 4-5 laps and pit again.
     
  13. pipimax007

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    I wanted to add to reports of being consistently hit by AIs suddenly trying to get back to the racing line after I passed them... I think it used to be better before 1.6 :(
     
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  14. DannyDB

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    Maybe you're confusing it with AC Evo... :p
     
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  15. AllocDK

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    Naa, after 1.6 the AI have been very bad at racing - You can clearly see how they jerk around the track following that racing line
     
  16. pr07

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    I did a 30 min race at Long Beach with LMDh and LMP2 Gen2 cars yesterday, and I experienced this too. Interestingly, only on the first lap. At the start, they were literally driving like I didn't exist, bump-drafting me on the straight, turning into me in every corner, even when I was already alongside before it, just awful AI behavior in general.
    But when, after many attempts, I managed to get past the first lap, I had amazing racing, and I was especially impressed by how some the AI were better than me at dealing with the slower LMP2s.
     
  17. SoloWingX

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    New patch, new Daytona testing. I am afraid without too much improvement. AI is very stubborn into the Bus Stop entry, but okay, spins are rare enough. LMDh lapping GT3s at the Bus Stop exit used to have that giant wobble very frequently (check my post history, or this thread a couple pages back). Now there are 3/4 scenarios. At the Bus Stop exit...
    • LMDh is well to the right of the GT3 - nice clean lapping, no time lost
    • LMDh right behind of the GT3
      a) THE WOBBLE
      b) doesn't move and gets stuck for way more than reasonable
    • LMDh to the left of the GT3 - stays behind for way more than reasonable despite plenty of space to the left after the exit
    I really want to race Daytona, but I just can't take it seriously, especially for a sim that proudly wears the IMSA license :(
     
  18. TomLehockySVK

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    My AI experience after doing a test of LMDh and GT3 Gen2 at Daytona.
     
  19. Marius H

    Marius H Forummoderator Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Report it in the bug reporting-topic with the proper format. Then it will be picked up.
     

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