IMSA license

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Mike Lord, Jul 29, 2025 at 2:31 AM.

  1. Mike Lord

    Mike Lord New Member

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    When I saw you had the IMSA license I was so stoked. I would prefer to play AMS2 all the time, it's so good. But here we are, a ways down the road and no Lexus, Ferrari, Acura, Mustang or Aston. Not sure of the value of a license that leads to about half the GT3 field being represented. Do you guys need better negotiators?
     
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  2. stealthradek

    stealthradek Driving character: Chaotic good AMS2 Club Member

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    As far as i know the IMSA licence was for the series' branding, not every single car/team/livery/track.
    Such licence can open some doors but regardless of the skill of negotiators they can say no for their own reasons and that's the end of the conversation.

    And I'd rather see half of the official series grid implemented than the entire series omitted.

    No need to be salty and suggesting better negotiators when we have only scraps of information here.

    PS: You'll soon be able to remove one missing car from your list.
     
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  3. bobbie424242

    bobbie424242 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Aston is coming with the new DLC.
    And for Ferrari it is not that Reiza did not try. It's just that Ferrari does not want (for now) to be in every racing game. It is still possible this changes in the future.
     
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  4. Rodger Davies

    Rodger Davies Well-Known Member

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    Unnecessary somewhat.

    Some championships have the right to redistribute their entrants, some do not. This is the latter case, clearly.
     
  5. mansell

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    in what other games ferarri "does not want to be"?
    because IIRC only reiza (in both AMS titles, i think) miss ferrari (AMS1 released 9 years ago...)

    rF2, AC, ACC, ACE, PC1, PC2, PC3, iRacing, raceroom, LMU...

    i hope you are not right because IMO It's better the reason that reiza doesn't have a ferrari to be economical than ferrari to refuse to give reiza permission (in both AMS titles) when everyone else in the genre has gotten licenses to use their cars in their sims (and some in simcades and arcades...)
     
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  6. wegreenall

    wegreenall Well-Known Member

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    As far as I know, there used to be a planned Aston Martin deal, that fell through (old timers please correct me). There are definitely old screenshots with Aston Martins in. It is likely that, unlike e.g. Studio 397, Reiza evaluate deals in a different way to other sims. As far as I have understood, this would track with the team's approach to business - they have refused offers to purchase the company even though I am sure this would have been lucrative for them.

    Relating to how one evaluates a deal - specifically, if I want Ferraris in my game, presumably there is a price I could pay to get them (I doubt Ferrari just dislike the smell of Reiza!). I can do one of two things: pay ahead of time, and hope that I make game sales that cover me (S397 approach it looks like); or I can cash-flow it (i.e. make sure I can make my cash back on such a licence, through e.g. a DLC).

    The latter is obviously a more sustainable approach, and for example, the Aston Martin deal likely is worth it now that X players exist. 200,000 sales of AMS2 (just through the summer sale), and assuming a reasonable retention rate (+2 hrs of playtime) may change the economics of the more expensive licenses (Japanese brands, Ferrari, etc.). if we assume that's about half all the sales til now, it halves the necessary percentage of people that need to be willing to buy a DLC in order to make back the cost of a Ferrari license. I don't think not having Ferraris is a 'skill issue'.
     
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  7. Lucifer_sam

    Lucifer_sam Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Incorrect, what happened was the Reiza's contact with Aston Martin ended up leaving the company.

    Here is a quote directly from Renato about the absence of Ferrari:

    " FWIW as I probably already alluded earlier in this thread, the issue with the Ferrari license is not down to money per se - we actually made a very reasonable offer to them with an upfront guarante well into six figures which is not typical even for other high prestige brands. They don´t want or feel the need to be in every single racing game out there and as far as their licensing dept. were concerned we came in knocking too late.

    It isn´t for lack of money or trying that Ferrari isn´t currently in AMS2; the only thing we can do to try convince them to come around is to continue making AMS2 better, more wide reaching and notorious so that they become almost conspicuous by their absence; and if that ever gets to be the case it is going to be the community who ultimately drives that message to them so that´s the door you should be barking at"
     
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  8. wegreenall

    wegreenall Well-Known Member

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    Fascinating! and thank you for the correction. I can only hope that the aforementioned 200,000 purchasers are enough momentum!
     
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