Automobilista 2 Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

I think you are both right. You are discussing different things though. Ivysaur is dicsussing FFB update rates whereas Coanda is talking about Physics' updates.

 

I think you'll find the LFB acts (sort of) as a FFB-range setting. If you increase LFB and reduce Gain, the range of forces narrows and the resulting FFB becomes less extreme in contrasting effect levels. If LFB-20 gives you extreme spikes during cornering+suspension loading, increasing LFB will reduce that tendency when combined with lower Gain.

Both the SCV8 and Ultima GTR still have very strong FFB (along with the Sprint & Lancer, maybe more) so, those are extreme cases but, useful for testing the interaction of LFB / Gain.

 

Since 8.0.2 I can no longer get rid of the grainy feeling through my accuforce wheel even with major levels of smoothing. While vehicle handling has definitely improved and AI are much much better the grainy feeling now is a real distraction.

 

How much smoothing are you using?

For overall smoothing in SC4, I've used 200% with some titles (AC) but, you can also filter the game-FFB coming into SC4 as well. Also, consider adding some dampening. A good car to test with filtering may the MCR-2000 (P4).

 

Feeding back - No understeer feel on most cars.

v0.8.2.0 - deleted profile and started again (3 times due to gear shift issue).

I did manage to feel something with the Super v8. slight loss of grip feel through the wheel but was already in the skid for about 1.5 seconds. (Oulton Park, long left hander before hairpin, had to really push way beyond the limit to feel anything ).

Hope this helps development.

Cheeky x.

 

Update from above:

Just saw the post from cristian51 on another post so decided to load the Sim and just "recal" my wheel and pedals. I also adjusted my FFB Gain, Low and FX by 1 point each to make sure they updated with a new value.

Did the same test with the Super v8 and the understeer feel is there (loss of grip), it is weaker than I would like but is there and the 1.5 seconds delay is gone, instantly the car felt more alive.

From now on I'm going to do this:
Update game,
Delete Profile,
Load and set-up with Calibration
Run 1 lap
Close Sim,
Load and Calibrate wheel and Pedals and adjust FFB by 1 point each (so they update with new value)
Race.

Might be pointless but it won't hurt and I am convinced I can feel a difference.

It does seem that some of the settings are not being save correctly sometimes, even if the values onscreen are saying the correct numbers.

Hope this helps,

Cheeky x.

 

Wish there was some way to corroborate these settings.

 

Is anyone else having trouble with VR performance/look/clarity?

I have a Valve Index with 2080 and it looks really bad... I set the resolution of my desktop screen to 800x600 under the performance tab, and set everything else to med/high settings, because I guess high texture quality in the performance tab will also set the VR texture quality to high (correct me if i´m wrong on this).
And then I also set supersampling to 1,5 in-game (maybe I should try SS through Steam-VR instead? - gonna try that tomorrow)

 

@Dean Ogurek yes tried some more SC4 settings today max wheel and game filtering will not get rid of the grinding ball bearing sound and feeling. Some cars are worse than others Lancers are the best with moderate filtering sound and feeling was adequately supressed. VDUBs are really bad.

 

Anybody has a T500RS? All i see are discussion and tips for Fanatec wheels

 

v0.8.2.0
T300RS




Formula 3
Oulton Park.
If I overdrive and overbreake the car I may gain a lot of time, but the feeling is completely "arcadish".

The newest physics are much better, from all point of view.
But the "arcadish backbone" of AMS2 is always here.

If I drive on Campogrande with any car, the aspahlt on straight is fully flat. On straights I don't have any bump. The roughness starts when I'm about to turn the steering wheel to set up a curve, and only then the asphalt come suddenly alive.
On Campogrande you feel immediately this sensation.
On other circuits, like Imola, the wheel rarely is on center for long time, and this this feeling may not manifest itself.
In any case, the FFB feels rubbery. There are no "spike" in the FFB, a single blow, a snap.
And the sounds of breaking and spinning are so "on/off", and the car at maximum velocity still sounds that "fffsssssh" when I brake powerfully, but the brakes shouldn't lock when you start braking if you hit them hard at high speeds.

Reiza, you're on the right track. I remain confident.

 

I would try isolating effects where possible; Turn FX to zero and see if that helps. I suspect there may be a single effect that is causing some resonance issue. Also, check SimX forums for updates / tips. I don't have the AccuForce set up right now, otherwise I'd it test too.

Also, have you done a hard reset of AMS2 save-files?
NOTE: Some say that Steam Cloud may interfere with the process and should be disabled first.

 

thx!
I will try yours. This is mey setting with standard in the TM panel. I am happy with it so far. A little rough since the last update. 36 34 53 3

 

I'm pretty sure your LFB (22) is set too low. As per the opening post:

And I'm sure our beloved T300 falls on the weak range of Fanatec/Thrustmaster wheels, so I'd go at least with 60. I currently have it at 70 but still fiddling with it and the rest of parameters