Track limit violation - Feedback on the new system here

The pit entry gives us a penalty, almost every time the drivers pit. Otherwise all seems good.

 

For me some turns are a bit too strict. Example Mendig: The last chicane its very tolerantly in this turns and u can hard attacking. That i wish me for the whole track.

 

does it effect also mod tracks? because on patricks nürburgring for example you got a track cut warning when going too wide out of the corner and with two wheels on the grass

 

Only 2 Wheels on grass. Wow. The Mendig chicane i mean you can partially cut with 4 wheels beside the white line. Im not forcing or searching such points , but it's good to know u have a comfortable tolerance window.

 

Disregard... I've just noticed that I was speeding at pit entrance...

I'm not worthy

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Hi Renato, will this system be able to be disabled by online server admin?

 

Should be already if you turn flags off.

 

This is a test at Mendig. Honestly, before 0.9.65b was better. Some "grass" turns much more strict then before, some other better, but not much.

These pics are all invalid/"cutted" laps. I see 2 tires on track, why isn't that enough ? Not good.
Turn 2


turn 5 or 6!? (the slow one nearly 180°)


last before chicane


Edit: 0.9.67r is not much better. A bit on the grass and 2 tires on track and he allways cancel the lap. I dont like that. Too picky...

 

For another thread here on the forum:

Can we have a system like this?
3 cuts and you get penalty, once you served it 2 more cuts and you get penalty again

 

I believe that a system that decreases the amount of allowed cuts based on the penalties should be a better way to manage the limits and also not cut the fights on the race:

4 cuts -> Penalty and Clear warnings -> 3 cuts -> Penalty and Clear Warnings -> 2 cuts -> Penalty and Clear Warnings -> 1 Cut -> Penalty -> 1 Cut -> Penalty and so on...

 

Lol, grass is not for driving

 

Edit: Ops, wrong forum.

 

Of course in the end you can't make everyone happy, but let's break this system/issue down to its components:

1. The cut-detection system is of course subject to refinement, and eventually everyone will learn what is allowed at each corner and just get on with the racing.

2. The penalty system is not simulating real racing rules, it's a game feature to promote fair play, and it needs to be strong enough to keep everyone conscious of being careful, but not so strong as to ruin people's races when they are taking reasonable care. The three-warning system is generous and takes into account a little sloppiness, and cuts that may result from passing battles or getting bent out of shape at a chicane. But after a penalty is served, having no more warnings means you're driving scared the rest of the race.

For a 40-minute race or shorter, this (going past three warnings and a penalty) should rarely be an issue, but for longer races, especially endurance races, this could really destroy the fun.

I'm sure most people want the post-penalty situation to be less harsh, and it's especially important for endurance races. The simplest thing to do (and the easiest for drivers to remember) is to reset the warning count to three. And here's the key point for me: just because you know you have multiple warnings ahead doesn't mean you are going to cut corners on purpose. Drivers are focused on driving consistent lines, and just having a penalty system at all will keep people honest.

 

I feel like a private league should be able to customize its use of the penalty and cut system since needs vary and as is often the case in iRacing private leagues will turn the cut/collision penalty system off altogether and rely on stewards or the honour system.

Whats the harm of an option to disable a feature that could potentially cramp people's style as it were? The only reason I can see for wanting to prevent this is to ensure a high level of conformity to rules on the Reiza front end.

 

Can't agree more, its my server and my clubs organised race. I want to decide if I allow cuts and how many, these should both be options in the final product. Too many cuts are from accidents in a racing battle where usually no times are gained

 

It wouldn't bother me if the system was permanently on, but I can see why league-runners would want more control. I don't see the harm of having a checkbox to turn it on and off, and/or an input box to enter the number of warnings before issuing a penalty (and this number of warnings would be repeated before each penalty).

My guess is, Renato wants to see how this goes in actual practice before making changes. Remember it's still Early Access so it's an experimental period where they can get more and stronger feedback than in a beta.