Track grip progression in Ams2

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  1. Kuerva

    Kuerva New Member

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    Hi!,
    I would like to know the progression of the grip with the passing of the cars, etc. is implemented in the physics. I have not seen any value regarding the grip of the track and I would like to know if it is implemented how it works or will be for 1.0.

    Thanks and great work! Keep going!
     
    Kuerva, May 21, 2020
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  2. Marius H

    Marius H Probationary forum-moderator Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Currently its always optimal. Hoping this feature from AMS 1 will come too. It's awesome when transiting during raceweekends, etc.
     
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  3. Kuerva

    Kuerva New Member

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    But it is a wish or is the grip progression confirmed by Reiza in future updates?
     
    Kuerva, May 22, 2020
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  4. Shadak

    Shadak Active Member

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    Its not on the current roadmap so unsure. But I would have hoped this is something that would be included in a high end simulation at some point. Especially if it was in AMS1.
     
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  5. Kuerva

    Kuerva New Member

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    OK thanks.
    If they want to be one of the top modern sims, I think that the progressive grip is something basic. I do not know if the physical engine is prepared for it, if not, I do not know if Reiza will have the ability to add and modify the core, I hope so.
     
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  6. Kuerva

    Kuerva New Member

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    Anyone know if Project Cars 2 has this feature?
    If it has it should not be a problem in Ams2
     
    Kuerva, May 22, 2020
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    Short answer: Yes, Project Cars 2 has it.
     
    Lukas Macedo, May 22, 2020
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  8. MarcG

    MarcG Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I don't think that is correct, in Test Day and Single Race I've certainly felt the track grip increase over a session. Time Trial is "optimum" for everything including track.
     
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  9. Renato Simioni

    Renato Simioni Administrator Staff Member

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    Livetrack is indeed working, the visual cue for the track rubbering however is currently broken following some recent road shader changes - should be fixed next week.

    Since currently LT sets track state to "green" with every new session, we´ve elected to keep green somewhat rubbered in - equivalent of medium track usage in AMS1, hence less range to fully rubbered in. Do a 10 lap race against 20 AI cars at Kansai for example and the the change in grip levels will be noticeable.
     
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  10. John Hargreaves

    John Hargreaves Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    It took a few patches for the all visual clues for LiveTrack to fully get into PC2 after release also, but once it was all in it was a very immersive aspect of racing. Rubbering up of the racing line, drying line on a wet track, gravel staying on the track where cars had run wide etc. Looking forward to seeing it in all its glory.
     
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  11. Scoops

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    A video of it in action to pass the time

     
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  12. Guga

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    This, is cool :cool:
     
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  13. Kuerva

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    Thanks for the info!
    I've been watching some videos about livetrack 3.0 and it's just amazing. Ams2 could become my favorite simulator, I can't wait to see the competitive system and everything to come regarding content, I would like content from different most famous classes of motorsport, but this base seems very solid to me and the ffb is incredible!.
    Keep going Reiza!!
     
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  14. kkdrummer

    kkdrummer Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Do you guys know if in pc2 the track would rubber in over a race weekend? Or would it reset for every session?
     
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  15. David Wright

    David Wright Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    It rubbers in over a weekend.
     
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  16. Shadak

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    This is great cant wait for the visual representation!
     
    Shadak, May 23, 2020
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    kkdrummer Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    This is great to know. Hopefully it is implemented in AMS2 as well.
     
    kkdrummer, May 23, 2020
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  18. kraM1t

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    Why does AMS2 remove all laid down rubber? I do 20 minute qualy, nice racing rubber line forms, then start the race, it's all gone and track is green with slidey cars again. Same happens in PC2...
     
    kraM1t, Jun 7, 2020
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  19. Gevatter

    Gevatter The James May of Simracing AMS2 Club Member

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    Because saving the track state across sessions isn't implemented yet.
     
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  20. kraM1t

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    Ah okay, is it confirmed to be fixed for full release or anything? I always hated that about PC2
     
    kraM1t, Jun 7, 2020
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