Automobilista - How the FFB works and what is new about it

Discussion in 'Automobilista - General Discussion' started by Renato Simioni, Mar 9, 2016.

  1. Supa

    Supa Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I cant beleive how the cars feel now using a Bodnar DD wheel. The FFB was the best out there and now its even better!!! Great job Reiza!! You are sooo lucky to have someone like Niels doing the FFB. I'm a big fan of his work. G27 users should also be happier now that the low force boost oprtion is available in the Menu.
     
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    Supa Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Oooops..... should have spelt it like this hehe...... Believe
     
  3. s2173

    s2173 New Member

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    With DFGT I set it to 107 profiler, -55 ingame strength, 80 % low force boost... I might reduce it abit, maybe 70. Now it feels pretty much like AC with lut curves and the anti-clipping app.

    Most noticeable is that forces are not so abrupt as before, they made my hands hurt probably because I was squeezing the wheel to feel the weaker forces. Also the game doesn't drop to 3 fps now when I stop my car or move very slowly, I guess because of fixes to the low speed calculations... tho that is more of an issue with my cpu.

    I'm not sure if I like the FFB more or less than before, but it definitely seems to be more useful...
     
  4. Supa

    Supa Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Your settings arent correct. Should be 100 in profiler ans set ingame to -100 and just adjust the Realfeel With Numlock R-CTRL 7 for weaker and R-CTRL 9 for stronger. I used to use a G27 which is similar to your wheel.
     
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  5. tpw

    tpw Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Supa, his settings are perfectly valid (IMHO). 107 in the profiler is standard procedure for many Logitech wheel users as it can help eliminate the centre deadzone.
     
  6. Renato Simioni

    Renato Simioni Administrator Staff Member

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    You should be able to address that center deadzone by increasing Low Force Boost % though - whether the results for that specific matter are as satisfactory may be may be a matter of taste, but at least you avoid the clipping at higher forces.
     
  7. tpw

    tpw Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    True indeed Renato. When I had a G27 I found 107 worked well for those titles that didn't have a minimum FFB type setting, but as you say Low Force Boost might do the trick.
     
  8. s2173

    s2173 New Member

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    Erm... DFGT does not have center deadzone, I tested with Wheelcheck several times. 107 is just recommended setting for linearity, 100 in profiler and -100 ingame will be way too strong, and the realfeel thing I never tried - I dont know what it does, if it saves the values and if they remain the same, also, if I start to play with it, it will never end.
     
  9. Guilherme Borghezani

    Guilherme Borghezani Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    well, after this update
    the 10% center spring recommended on guide is needed @Renato Simioni ?
     
  10. Paul Bennett

    Paul Bennett Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    DFGT 100 in profile with 80% low force an 70-80% strength, is the sweet spot for me. Wheel an car feels so connected now.
     
  11. Supa

    Supa Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I would have thought that the Min Force slider that Renato mentioned does away with the need for 107 in the logitech profiler. And s2173....you need to get your head around Realfeel. Adjusting it while you drive is the way to go!
     
  12. millen

    millen Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Can you re-map realfeel adjustments to other buttons/keys?
    My keyboard doesn't have a numpad option... Logitech K400...
     
  13. Domagoj Lovric

    Domagoj Lovric Moderator Staff Member

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    No, can't be remapped.
     
  14. drakko45

    drakko45 New Member AMS2 Club Member

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    What are the recommended low force values for the t300? I feel the wheel very strange after update.
    I try 50-60 value
     
  15. tpw

    tpw Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    They recommend 20-40 for a T300, I use 30 and it feels awesome.
     
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  16. Tassydevil

    Tassydevil Member AMS2 Club Member

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    What is the recommend for Fanatec CSW V1 wheel anybody?
     
  17. drakko45

    drakko45 New Member AMS2 Club Member

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    My settings are :
    Tm panel
    75
    100
    100
    0
    0
    and in game :
    ffb: 80 - 90 gain
    low force 50-60 and i feel the whell too light on lower speeds in f1 cars
     
  18. rocafella1978

    rocafella1978 Member AMS2 Club Member

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    has anyone gotten CSW V2 or OSw Lenze MCS12 configured properly and setup to give it a good feeling of FFB? I have been looking around but no luck...
     
  19. Rico30000

    Rico30000 New Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I have a question about PneumaticTrailGripFractPower (PTGFP) function
    Can you explain how could it be implemented in a tbc file of a converted mod.
    Do we need to keep pneumtictrail as it was and add this new line, which value to give to this new fonction for a openwheel car for example? Is it PneumaticTrailGripFractPower=... to add in tbc file? Thanks for your answer Reiza and a big thanks for this wonderful game that AMS is!!!! Gratitude!
     
  20. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    I am settling on 6% after some experimentation.
     
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