Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Raceracerace

    Raceracerace Active Member

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    But you never seem to ignore me, since deep down, while this is slightly against the grain, you know I am right. And trust me I would rather be happy than right, but some are absolutely misrepresenting this game and this file. Its got to stop, as they hinder the progress with the nit picking nonsense.

    What would add enormous value for the fellow is actually to purchase himself a new DD wheel from fanatec with the power pack.

    Do you know how many come here looking for this custom file, from youtube etc, and they arrive here and go 'wtf' why is this dude saying this file is bad?
     
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  2. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Please don’t bring your sh!t to this thread. It’s been trundling along quite nicely with everyone being very helpful to each other.
     
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  3. Raceracerace

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    Its not. Its turning away adopters. Thats not my sheeott, thats yours for being an enabler, and his because his life is so bereft of meaning he needs to find it in other people's projects. All he is doing, for months on end, is tarnishing a project. From the outside it looks rank. When the truth is 9/10 files have been amazing.

    What he has been doing is saying that ONLY .05/10 of the files have been good.


    Its the worst spin in the world, and also, I would appreciate it if you did not type cast me as a nasty bad person because he can't enjoy whatever narrow, small thing this is in the grand scheme of things.

    If he is involved and by law of allowing everyone to be involved, then he is running his agenda on those files and its almost 100% negative.

    lol - are we playing different games?

    SO, please, don't tell me I am talking sheeeot. When we both know his is what stinks.
     
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    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Welcome to my ignore list. Population: you

    @Dave Stephenson: I second the call to ban this troll. He writes walls of text that may as well be Lorem ipsum (it’s quite comical to think that he thinks anyone could be bothered to read his incoherent ramblings) and he’s pretty abusive to other forum members.
     
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  5. Shadak

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    Can you maybe take this to PM? In the last post all you do is attack each others personalities, if you have anything to say about the custom file and its technical aspect, please share it by all means. I dont think Kuku was being disrespectful or anything though. You dont need to go on and on about the same thing here anymore.
     
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  6. Raceracerace

    Raceracerace Active Member

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    He can ban me.

    It will not change the direction of the project or anything. I could literally still use the forum as I see fit, this is a tool not an identity, in fact I wouldn't even be saying this without a firm reason. So if this is the result, then it has been worth it.

    The trouble is, Fizzy, I know I am talking reason. But its no skin off my bone if you don't want to listen, if a ban is imminent or anything.

    You guys think you are doing a great thing, but the actual thing is, this site serves yourself and not reiza so much. Its just a big circle jerk.

    I only speak up about stuff when it matters and if this didn't matter I wouldnt be saying it.
     
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  7. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    Mr. RaceRaceRace, ByeByeBye.

    Ignore Status Engaged.;)
     
  8. Raceracerace

    Raceracerace Active Member

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    Just another one. If it doens't conform with your world view, I guess I don't want to spook or shock you out of your delusion.

    I'll get me into your eyes if I wanted to one way or another.

    If this is some experiment of scientific kind of thing, then its got some bad inputs. There's nothing wrong with the files that it requires this level of circle jerking over.

    I'll leave it up to you lot. I guess by page 300 you'll have lead the file creator round in circles enough.

    Its not the point I continue on here anyway - just by hearing what I said, the kuku fellow and others will in future be putting in far better and healthy contributions. So what - you didn't want to hear it in your safe space.

    Thats ok. Like I said, I have probably already altered his course for the better with the intervention.

    This is no different to the controller people - just what is to be expected. Any other title and you wait months for updates - I see all that as trying to take advantage of the developer.
     
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  9. Peter Stefani

    Peter Stefani Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Wow, I thought this section of the Forum was free of BS. Disappointing to see such crude attitudes.
     
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    Thread Kaczynski strikes again, seems he found another thread to bomb...
     
  11. Raceracerace

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    Its not crude - but it is a sensitive topic. This is simply not a project that needs endless nuance.

    I am pretty happy with the title as it is with the custom file as it is. Why is 1 guy out of 1000, just say, not?

    Thats what I had to ask myself. And I think its worse to leave things how they were than to have had this disussion.

    Think better of the file. And maybe buy a new and better wheel.

    Its not thread bombing. You guys can relax about the freaking title you know. It doesn't require the level of circle jerking that was happening last year.

    Some are simply too attached to the way things were.

    Reiza just need content and continued foundational work, some marketing or equivalent; and positivity and belief in the product being good from people, even if its as low as being on a forum.

    THATS why something needed to be said.

    The only other thing I would do (file is fine enough) is add the custom file 4.5 to the custom-default in the game.

    Thats the way forward... it doesn't need me or anyone to jump up and down, circle-toss each other about altering a little value here or there, it doesn't need wonderment or questions, or waiting, it should actually just be done.

    At the point of sale people need certainty and this would go a long way. Some think they're not just another f-ing sheep in the herd - but they really are. We can do without all the conjecture over how the file is meant to be lousy and in constant need of fine adjustment. Thats negativity and discouraging uptake.

    >>>> this is what you need on lesser wheels.

    Stakanov said:
    LogitechHUB: Last version with default setting 900° and sensitivity to 50

    IN GAME: 900° All deadzone to 0 and sensitivity to 50 except the throttle on 30

    FILE FFB:
    NAME: Silver Raw - rFuktor 4.5 Exp4 - Momentum Rack 6.1 - Tuned by Stakanov for LowEnd Wheels and Logitech (G920 and G923/G29/G27/G25/DFGT) (Date 06/06/2021)

    In game setting select "Custom" with this starting value for Logitech:
    GAIN 90* [myself I actually use 95 and default control panel] - LFB 80 - FX 65 - DP (PowerSteering) 80.
    *Then, in the car setting, use +/- % of Gain for car to taste!!!

    Those settings, and with the 4.5 exp 1 (not the others imo but one may try) if you have a belt thats what you need to be doing.

    The rest - is bullsheiot

    Because the game is wow
     
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  12. Peter Stefani

    Peter Stefani Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    As suggested, please take your conversation to a PM.
     
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  13. Micropitt

    Micropitt Mediocre driver doing mediocre laps AMS2 Club Member

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    Just tested your custom file with the recommended settings. It feels great :D
     
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  14. TekNeil

    TekNeil Take me back to the 2.4l, twin 50 weber days...

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    Don't feed the Narcissist. Click his name, click 'Ignore'. And then 'Report' under his posts.

    Absolute disgrace of a human being. Shouting 'Autism', 'Disability' and 'Mental issues' all over the damn forum, does it time and time again and I for one find some of it highly offensive. The f**k does he think he is telling people what they should/shouldn't do? What they should/shouldn't own? Throwing around suggested disabilities and illnesses?!

    And then after the offensive comments, making out he's doing it with good intent. I know how you narcs work. He needs banning.
    And that's the last time I'll click 'Show ignored content'.

    Apologies for the rant. I may finally get to try the update tonight, and see how the FFB feels. Which may lead to testing the latest custom files.
     
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  15. Flow

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    Hey guys,
    a little FFB problem. My Fanatec DD1 Wheelbase is set to 100%. In the game, the FFB is 45%. For example in an accident or offtrack, the base goes to the maximum and starts to rotate a lot. That's where it gets dangerous. Anyone with the same problem? Ideas?

    Regards Flow
     
  16. Boomer Studios

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    My thumbs ached at the thought of having my DD1 set to 100% :eek:
    Here are my Fanalab Settings: My biggest issue is not having the understeer and oversteer feedback that I'm used to in other sims and real life. I'm hoping I can find a custom FFB file that will address this for me.

    DD1 Settings for AMS2.png
     
  17. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi Rob

    You can adjust the master road scale in main settings near top of file.
    Default is 1.25 i believe, but you can increase incrementally from there.


    # Main dials
    #

    (master_rack 0.78) #Rack and road scale.
    (master_road 1.35) #Road bumps, details and suspension
    (master_effects 1.55) #Effects scale.

    If that doesn’t help enough you can do the same with master rack scale

    and as a final option there’s is perhaps some gain in minor increase in Texture scale down further.
    (texture_scale 0.32)

    This is basically just like adjusting internal equaliser for these signals.


    sorry for slow reply , been busy at work trying to earn enough money to buy a Fanatec CSL DD that isn’t freely available and fanatec refuses to ship or offer support to my country ;)
     
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  18. Raceracerace

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    This is what I am trying to get across. And it causes us ALL to have a massive rethink about the game and the file. And our settings.

    -- I personally use the 4.5 exp 1 in its default state from Karsten but with stakanovs surrounding settings.

    I try to make no offence but its for peoples own sanity I need to bust through their denial about changing things too much - it soon goes awry since there's so many settings. I would put it to the experts to be closer, which is not to say they are infallible, but if you can beat that and not get mixed up over time, then thats stunning, but I highly doubt it, and the game is a moving target with development.

    If anyone is suggesting weird changes to the file, I would call that a big mistake. Do they even play other games, for example? I think they are chasing shadows and their own reference points are off kilter by this stage. Their wheel could be on the way out. They should upgrade in any event.

    I just played f1 AC dlc ferarai at laguna seca - guess what, with those settings, the 4.5 exp 1 (or 4 go for it) AMS2 is a phenomenon with the f1 reiza (second most modern one, standalone car in the menu). More movement, as much control. Its lively and its better, frankly.

    And I put steering sensitivity to 50 and throttle sensitivity down to 30 (was advised this and its great). Its a tx wheel and default control panel. dead zones are 0. If you have load cells you will probably have its own program to do things as well and they average for lcm's a bottom-off of 2, and a 'factor' down the bottom for me, of 80, so if I push down on the brake pedal it goes up to 100 at 80% of the pressure needed which is a lot as I beefed it up slightly but its so good. The above feels great to drive. If prioritizing, though, then buy a wheel before pedals.

    What needs to be done with people with is their settings or wheel is not up to par.

    Get a new wheel if the above does not feel good - the majority of people who don't own a DD will be within a year. We all have the means. IF thats not an option then make sure the settings are just like that and don't bother altering lower files, just use the high end file. The system is essentially like audio/waves/modulation. The high end file will retain its allure - its just limited by wheel tech. The pool of people using a t300 or a tx in the coming years will shrink. I could go on about a bunch of marketing and process/manufacturing things now but whats the point, we all see this happening everywhere.

    Its a waste of time eeking out another couple of percent for a particular car/track; the game is an iterative process. Heck I could name 5 cars which felt better 6 months ago - but we all know 6 months ago the game was no where near what it is now. What goes around comes around, so it will eventually turn.

    We can hold that opinion and leave the meddling to others and that must not be fun, because what is fun is that file, those settings and the game itself. I would suggest anything coming from a g29 or t300 is an error anyway. Thats not how one should develop the file, or us use it, and basically I think the creator of the file has it right what he is doing. Not only do the results speak for themselves, but the only ones having trouble are those in the wrong; and its mere perception on several fronts. Why try to alter things for example when the LFB boost does a lot. This for me was a thing - and I lowered dampening/power steering back to 80. Boom, done baby!

    (and guys like kuku who absolutely loves the game, if he is not on a dd wheel by very soon I would be surprised - what you see from people in market segments who devote a lot of their time to their hobby they always have the baseline/needed or otherwise good equipment because they can see the value in it thus making us make ahem 'the right call' at the time of purchase (point of purchase=whenever you need to make the brain make the finger give up your money, its a moment in time where the rubber meets the road, so to speak)...otherwise advertisements focus on making us think there is value in it to get us to make 'the right call'; but people like him have it automatically realized).

    (all I did to the f1 reiza [its not the ultimate one], is lower the front ARB by one notch, for which I use the keyboard keys /i/ and /o/ for the front and /k/ and /l/ for the back. No fancy setup in that case, /p/ is pit limiter and the /;/ and /'/ keys are for starting the car; if anyone is wondering why I just go on like its easy, I try to streamline things - brake bias is on the knob on the wheel, left is down and right is up and drs etc is a button - so I change these things per lap quite often)

    - so its a thing of beauty now this game. No other game would I race round in practice Laguna seca in an f1 car. As my tires got worn more and more I just adjusted brake bias and lowered the ARB by a notch as those tires got lower. FFB was sublime at all stages. The game is so dynamic now and I really think this FFB file is keeping up well with the physics and game. My sound for curbs is not out of sync either. And the pace was kept high. You can even see (now its past the point where in a race you'd have to go into the pits for new tires) your tires rubber being laid down onto the track lol and you drive over it.

    -- basically this is a great stage for the game to be in. I said no other game would I do this in, and its true. I did do this in ACC going round the one in the netherlands for like 50 laps lol and thats before ACC I realised how bland it was unfortunately. But as a driving experience it was real good then (middle of las year but not now as AMS2 came along), but I prefer AMS2, and I can now safely say its at that level where you can legitimately drive round a track 20-30 times. And be happy enough doing it. This is more indicative to me than trying to adjust a couple of values in the file ( or be very careful/make it temporary because it moves away from the functional greatness of the file). I think its a mistake to adjust values, just check your settings are complimentary to ideal.

    - the other cool thing about this, is you want to drive the cars for a long time which not a lot of other sims can make happen. If you set in your in car setup for the management to swap drivers it will also do that. Which is great for taking a brake in long sessions. In practice he will jump in the car and drive it round for a bit and come back into the pits. This ffb is that good. The game is very immersive now. Not to mention the landscapes and detail on the tracks such as the corkscrew sign at laguna.


    You will love it. And hopefully you read the above because you could literally save yourself months of effort.

    No. I am not that. And lets not get into pop psych too much. What you refer to is a common internet condition where people become a "vulnerable narcissist". It can happen offline too but in general it can happen in the positive and negative online as well; where it can be any form of cluster B/histrionic which we see in females more, but those neurotic things come out like attention seeking behavior, which this is not a pattern of over a long period of time. I don't have it in me. But pragmatically what people are doing with these files is being careless. Some more than others, and depending on how much leisure time you have. If you have a LOT then you may not consider 24-48 hours a week spent on fiddling with the f-king file a problem. Most people would, however. Thats different to the creator, its his work, but for those people doing it for fun, then by any measure that is a symptom of something deeper. Its not narcisism my good man.

    But with V-Narc's when pushed they become all sensitive and get on like a narcsisist BUT without the grandeur component - only the 'im hurt and you will pay!' component. This is not the case. Kuku for example is not that either, he simply became indignant, then he revealed as per my suggestion he is going to buy a DD wheel. Which is for his own personal best interests.

    What I am doing, is two fold - getting it through peoples skulls because lets face it, people do not heed advice at the best of times and denial is a thing when their experience with files is a dissonance with what they were experiencing - and we only have literature which is not a firm hold on reality as words need to be interpreted.

    The second thing is I am highlighting the value in nor getting bogged down by your own ego. Be pragmatic, be sensible. Be reasonable. There is only so much a wheel can do and these files when set up as intended do what is proper.

    If you put me on ignore this just indicates your 'special needs' space requirement and you miss out on a lot of good stuff. Look, I am sorry I am not there to pat you on the back to keep your courage and positivity up, but I would otherwise be, but I can simply not see to everyone. Kuku gives the most inputs, and it would help if his input was more true to what it should be.

    Now you put me on ignore you can travel through life in a larger cone of ignorance - I am not fussed as this stuff gets worked out one way or another for yourself - there is always a price to pay in time, money, resources, effort, people, etc. You do not find me on here 24/7 anyway updating people with my latest file changes (there are none), or observations (only at junctures). The game does not exist in a vacuum and its better right now than many other sims....what we find out there is that people are in fact saying this patch pushed the game past a lot of things. Check the feedback. The FFB is sublime (even on default), its a well done; and for custom people who like it different its a well done too.
     
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    ahhh ignore - what wonderful functionality :)
     
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  20. Raceracerace

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    Haha. If you read my other posts you'd see how intelligent I am, heck if you were able to wrack my brains for five mins you would.

    As such I don't want you reading my posts. Also given the maturity of the ffb files now, with any luck Karsten can take a break from all this or have an easier run of it.

    Also I am so perceptive and learned I can literally solve patterns of behaviour in others to deter them and better their own ends just by how they come across. See, the pushback I am getting is token resistance. You know I am right but you want your safe space.

    You'll get it all understood in time, I'm sure. I'm often one step ahead. Don't worry I'm not bothered you don't want to read my stuff. There's probably little you could tell me I don't already know. It's better you're happy in your ignorance than upset in the truth. That's ok because just like politics some people swing the other way.

    Like a fiddle.

     
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