Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I wasn’t talking about strength or weight of your wheel base, this was about a greater variance between normal tyre resistance and loaded tyre feel . In most of the files I have initial tyre resistance at 2.0 for example.
    I cant say for certain if it will help feelings of understeer or tyres running past there grip level, but it may contribute..
    but if your struggling with the weight or general power of the forces then bumping Normal static force reduction up a bit might get it in a window that you like.
     
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  2. Temougyn

    Temougyn New Member

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    Sento più dettagli con il profilo default+. È vero che è più nervoso, ma con i filtri simucube posso correggere questa problem
     
  3. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I was only commenting on how extremely heavy the wheel is with gain at 70 in game and FFB at 100 on the CSW 2.5 with @Alegunner68 file. I have no problems with changing it to suit me, just cant see how a car can be driven with such a heavy steering. That is why we have adjustments, right? :)
     
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  4. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Very odd that, the ffb on my wheel with my file feels very dynamic, from hardly any force on slow corners to a nice weight at speed and everything in between. Driveable with one hand until I reach 150+ mph.
     
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  5. Vanisch

    Vanisch New Member

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    Hey Kuku
    I think what you have created with your Custom FFB for AMS 2 is absolutely awesome. I operate the settings on my Simucube 1 and I am absolutely thrilled how exactly you can feel the car with it. Since the implementation of the Indycar series in AMS 2, I've been totally enthusiastic about AMS 2, but with your Custom FFB it's even better.
    I've never had a better FFB.

    Thanks for that.
     
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  6. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Odd indeed. I had a mate with a fairly new CSW set at all your settings, and he too found it very heavy. I don't even run my wheelbase at 100, only 90. Oh well, it doesn't really matter, I just turn down Gain, and it's great. Thanks.
     
  7. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys,

    It's been a while, but we(@Panos Schoino, @Shadak and myself) finally spent several nights over a longer period and have the next evolution. It is a big leap forward in multiple ways, so we are skipping to next major version number :)

    * BIG change: Damping is damping again.
    * Improved oversteer/understeer calculations.
    * More precise slip calculations.
    * Adjusted slip feel.
    * New lfb calculations, allowing more adjustability at the low end of the lfb range.
    * New tear, including early tear effect.
    * Tear naturally progressing from road noise and slight rolling road slipping.
    * Scrub adjusted.
    * Removed trail stuff, so no issues on Monza 10k etc.
    * A few other improvements.
    * Some bugs fixed.


    "rFuktor 5.0" direct link(original, high end file) :

    https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/ffb_custom_settings-rfuktor-5-0-txt.18469/

    - Remember renaming the file to "ffb_custom_settings.txt"
     
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  8. tUMi

    tUMi Active Member

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    Nice to see you, @Karsten Hvidberg :)

    I will definitely try this out today when I get home from work. Which in-game FFB settings you are using with this file and with your Simucube 2 wheelbase (you're still using this wheelbase, am I right)? Also is there any significant changes required in True Drive or does your old settings you gave me long time ago still apply with this file? Thanks. :)
     
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  9. bazziboy

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    I just tried it with my T300RS.
    I did some laps in Monaco and Southafrica with the hot MCLaren GT1 and it feels really good.
    I tuned down FX and LFB a bit and upped damping a bit from my Standard+ settings.
    Preferring it to the standard FFB it seems.
    Thank you Karsten and the others for your hard work :)
     
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  10. Panos Schoino

    Panos Schoino New Member

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    My ingame settings during the process were:gain 30-35 and lfb 8-12 both depending on the car, fx 30 and damping 0. TD settings the same old. That's with the PRO, so you may need to up a bit the gain.
     
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  11. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    We have a slight variation in how we set it.
    @Panos Schoino's settings are probably better, as he is much more sensitive to the differences than I am.

    I have:

    Gain: 25-30 for formula cars, ~30-33 for GT1, ~35-37 for GTE/GT3, ~37-40 for caterhams.

    FX at ~24.

    Damping 0-30, I have not made up my mind what I prefer. I like it at 0 and I like it at 30. Never even tried 15.

    LFB all the way down to 0 for some cars. I assume this is not optimal for records and I prob. would like it just as much at 8-12. Also have not quite made up my mind on this.
     
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  12. Mathias[NuoSimulation]

    Mathias[NuoSimulation] New Member

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    Hello and thank you for V5.0. I was just able to test it. But I have to say that I prefer the alecgunner version by far. I also use a Simucube 2 pro. For me, the V5.0 is much too spongy around the middle position. With AlecGunners Version, I have the feeling that I'm really driving a car.
     
  13. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I would have to agree. This file for me just has way too much understeer feel. Have played with the setting for it and others, but just cant get the feel I like. Have you added a feeling of the gear changes? It feels like there is a slight jerk when changing gears on some cars. Could also be my imagination too. :)
     
  14. tUMi

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    Thank you, @Karsten Hvidberg and @Panos Schoino for your quick replys.

    Actually my current in-game settings are very close or even similar to @Panos Schoino 's settings so looks like no need for any significant changes for now. I will experiment with the settings once I get a chance to test the file later afternoon. :)
     
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  15. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hey @Mathias[NuoSimulation] @Michael Enright ,

    What settings are you running in-game and in Truedrive / fanatec settings?

    @Michael Enright your base being CSW I am not so surprised, since the new file did not get a true CSW overhaul by anybody yet :)

    But I am surprised by @Mathias[NuoSimulation] description. I would not color it spongy on my base for sure.

    Will be interesting to learn about the settings you guys use.
    Also will be very interesting to give @Alegunner68's version a run :)

    Best,

    -K
     
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  16. Mathias[NuoSimulation]

    Mathias[NuoSimulation] New Member

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    The FX is the problem. I had fx on 30. now on 0 and the spongy feeling for me is gone. I will test it further :)
     
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  17. Mathias[NuoSimulation]

    Mathias[NuoSimulation] New Member

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    what I can say. With the V 5.0 I have a very good feeling for over- and understeer and I was able to immediately improve my times on Cleveland/Champcars.
     
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  18. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    What FX did you end up using?
     
  19. Mathias[NuoSimulation]

    Mathias[NuoSimulation] New Member

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    FX is set to 0. The higher I set fx, the worse the center position becomes. Isn't that the case with you?
     
  20. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I'll play around a bit more later, and see if I can find some settings that I am happy with, and take note of what I try and will let you know. I have tried back to back v5 and Alegunner68's and still prefer the latter. I will put a bit more time into v5 and see what I can come up with. Thanks @Karsten Hvidberg and co for these files. They certainly add something to AMS2 for a lot of us.
     
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