Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Peter Stefani

    Peter Stefani Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    rFuctor 5.0.4 is IMO the best ever also. The most smoothed averaged that I have found. I made just a few small tweaks for the G920 for suspension feel and micro-bumps.
    In Game 95/11/25/10 12-22-21
    ffb_custom_settings - rFuktor 5.0.4_G920
     
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  2. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi Karsten. Not quite sure which lines should or shouldn't be commented out. There seems to be 8 lines trying to do the same thing 2 ways. There are no #'s in front of any of them. Just a little confused, obviously. :confused:

    (damping damping_slider)
    (power_steering_angular 0.4)
    (power_steering_df 0.3)
    (power_steering_vel 0.1)

    #--- uncomment these 4 lines to use static damping and control higher forces by the damping_slider "power steering".
    (damping 0.3)
    (power_steering_angular (* power_steering_angular 3 damping_slider))
    (power_steering_df (* power_steering_df 3 damping_slider))
    (power_steering_vel (* power_steering_vel 3 damping_slider))
    Thanks.
     
  3. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hey Michael,

    Yes, I added the comment and then uncommented the lines myself 8)
    So they are as they have to be for power steering.
    The lines depend on the prior lines, as they simply scale them again. The idea is that the ratio you like should be present in those first lines and will work in both modes.

    So it's the opposite now that they are uncommented: Comment them to go back to damping on the damping slider.
     
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  4. WarmRed

    WarmRed Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Sorry guys was my mistake. I did not copy the custom file to the AMS2 Beta folder but to the AMS2 folder. I have tested of course in the beta and there was still an old custom file. :oops:
     
  5. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Ah, gotcha. I must admit, I prefer it this way (power steering instead of damping on slider). And, it feels different, better different, to me, but would not be able to say in what way. Might just be a placebo too. :) Thanks again.
     
  6. tk84

    tk84 Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Looking forward to trying the v5.x this weekend. One question I have, seeing that I've seen it mentioned a few places that people are adjusting not just gain, but also damping and sometimes even fx per car class: Will it ever be possible that these type of per car/class adjustments could be made within the file itself and not meaning having to change FFB settings every time jump into a different car?

    I seem to remember something in a changelog about car type's being made available to FFB or something like that? possibly I'm confused about that one. I know we have per car gain as an option but like I say, sounds like damping and fx per car too would be useful and If we could save a +/- % for each in the custom FFB file then it really could be a case of not having to always be in the FFB menu tweaking.
     
  7. Manolo

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    Hey @Karsten Hvidberg , in your new file 5.0 or 5.0.1, even if it is an insubstantial correction (because it is not very noticeable on the steering wheel), perhaps you have forgotten to insert a line of code, as highlighted by Stakanov and confirmed by Kuku, as indicated below in bold and red ;)

    (left_bump_pos (max left_bump_pos left_bump))
    (right_bump_pos (max right_bump_pos right_bump))
     
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  8. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Thanks @Manolo @Stakanov @Kuku Maddog ,

    I'm updating the 5.0.2 file in page 1 with this change.

    Best,

    -K
     
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  9. Vic7or

    Vic7or New Member

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    This is great news, can't wait to try out 5.02. I'm quite new here and to Sim Racing, and I've tried searching in this thread. Where can I find recommended Paddock settings for the Simucube 2 Pro and 5.02? Thanks!
     
  10. tUMi

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    Search for my online profile named "AMS2 rFuktor 5.0.1 SC2 Sport" in Paddock (I will update it for version 5.0.2 later today). ;) It should work fine for your SC2 Pro wheelbase as well and also for rFuktor 5.0.2 (haven't got the time to test the 5.0.2 yet but I assume the changes from 5.0.1 are minor and won't require re-adjusting in-game FFB settings).
     
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  11. Vic7or

    Vic7or New Member

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    Awesome, I will try it right away! Thanks for the quick answer! :)
     
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  12. tUMi

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    Hey, no problem. ;)

    For your information, my online profile in True Drive Paddock is now updated for rFuktor 5.0.2 (also tested it, no changes required in True Drive FFB settings or in AMS2 in-game FFB settings so my settings from 5.0.1 still fully applies to 5.0.2).
     
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  13. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Looking forward to trying the the new one @Karsten Hvidberg , it's been a while..
     
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  14. Vic7or

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    Great!
    I tried it and i feels rally good with the Porsche GTE. I then tried the CART cars, that was intense to say the least :D I think I need to lower FFB a bit.
    Do you also get quite extreme oscillations in the steering wheel if holding it to loose or letting go for e second?
     
  15. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I get it with most if not all the custom files, it's one of the few things the default files excel at.
    I just hang on and grin.
     
  16. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hey Vic7or,

    I do no get this on my SC2. Maybe if I run crazy settings I would.

    If you have oscillations or too high forces, you have to lower gain or lfb or both, I would think.

    Gain is to be used at lower setting for high downforce cars, like formulas etc. This is so they have a lighter feel at low speed and to provide headroom for torque feel as velocity and downforce increase.

    -K
     
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  17. tUMi

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    The CART cars are high downforce cars just like Formula 1 cars so naturally the FFB in-game settings needs to be lowered quite a bit from the GTE cars.

    I do get sometimes quite extreme oscillations especially with the high downforce cars when holding or letting go the wheel for a second just like you have experienced. I've had this "issue" as long as I can remember but it doesn't really bother me. It can be avoided by lowering Gain or LFB or both but rather than doing that, I do the same thing than @Alegunner68 , just hold on tight from the steering wheel and grin. :)
     
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  18. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    hahaha, you guys are nuts!
    How forceful do you need it??? :)
     
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  19. tUMi

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    Haha, what can I say? I just love my FFB heavy. :) Light FFB is not my cup of tea, realistic or not. Keeping the forces on a heavy side has not stopped me from getting world records in AMS2 Time Trial leaderboards. ;)
     
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  20. Mathias[NuoSimulation]

    Mathias[NuoSimulation] New Member

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    I have tested everything again. Alecgunner's version and both 5.01 from @Karsten Hvidberg

    And I have to say that I tend to prefer @Alegunner68 Version.I like the feeling there when the car is moved from standstill and also in slow passages. Some details may be missing, but overall it's more realistic for me. Just my opinion. High curbs (Imola first corner or last chicane) are also better reproduced there. With Karsten, I don't notice them at all.
    In fast curves I don't have these peaks so much. They get me down :)

    For your information, when people say here that they want a heavy FFb. I drove Karsten's with gain 55-58. In truedrive 100 %. without static force reduction.
    A colleague of mine sees it similarly. He drives a DD1
     

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