Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

I haven't tried the new file yet but I think I know what you you mean. With previous files at standstill it feels perfect then just as you move off all feeling disappears until you reach a certain speed.
I'll have a go tomorrow when the rum wears off and have a fiddle.

 

The latest rFuktor version 5.0.2 feels just phenomenal when doing the Time Trial leaderboards record runs.

I'm happy to announce that I managed to set a new world record this evening on Nordschleife with the McLaren MP4/12. I did improve my old personal record on this track for almost 1,8 seconds and beat the previous world record holder by over seven tenths of a second.

This is the also the first time I have set a world record with the rFuktor 5.0x file. I believe this is a solid proof that @Karsten Hvidberg 's recent iteration is simply excellent in adding immersion factor but more importantly in addition to that it does show it's true colours when I'm pushing a car to it's limits.

http://www.dropbox.com/s/1hrodfi5e8...schleife_tumi_world_record_17-12-21.png?raw=1

http://www.dropbox.com/s/9ndbww3f52...leife_tumi_personal_record_17-12-21.png?raw=1

 

Hi Karsten,

Ok, strange that you don’t get that. Which settings do you usually run in Paddock and in game for 5.02 for hifh downforce cars? It would be nice to be able to compare with the settings that tUMI recommended.

And also to chime in regarding @tUMi ’s latest post. I definetely feel that it’s easier to push the car further with your new Custom FFB, amazing work from you guys!

 

I just think my arms are not the caliber of true sim racing drivers I do run 100% in True Drive and no filters, except recon 1, but in-game I "only" use gain 25%-40%, depending on the car.
If those match it could be my steering wheel dampening the forces, I run a fairly heavy full size rim, not a formula one.

I have gone to great lengths to make oscillations not occur, so it annoys me it happens for others, but I cannot fix it when it does not happen for me here....

 

Haha not my arms either, I don’t want a wrestling match each lap. I do want all the road and grip info though

Ok, I’m going to fiddle a bit with the settings tomorrow. I’m currently running a carbon fiber formula style wheel so it’s fairly light. But I dit get oscillations earlier with 4.6 with a heavier ”normal” wheel with ascher button box that’s fairly heavy.

 

I get really bad oscillations on the default/default+ but never on anything derived from rfuktor. Vic7or - you positive you've selected custom in the AMS2 in-game settings and no spelling mistakes in the ffb_custom_settings.txt filename?

 

I also get oscillations with Default+ when I ride low damping in Base, which I actually like. With 5.0.1 I can let go of the wheel and nothing oscillates. Not even when I help the wheel and nudge it. In the 5.0.1 I would have liked even a little less damping.
more damping could always be given either in game or base but with 5.0.1 the damping feels so high that i have 0 in game and base and still have too much.

more damping could always be given either in game or base but with 5.0.1 the damping feels so high that I have 0 in game and base and still have too much.

With Podium DD1

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Yes, but I will double check tomorrow if I get some time off.

I’ve used other settings with FFB Default without oscillations though. So I’m a bit confused atm.

 

I’ve only tried 5.0.2, might give 5.0.1 a try tomorrow and see how it compares.

There’s no way I can let go of the wheel when up to speed as it is right now. I wouldn’t be able to catch it again without serious risk of injury.

 

No oscillation here at all. In fact, I can't even induce it if I try.

I use Friction at 8% / no Damping in TrueDrive with rFuktor 5.0.2.
AMS2-ffb: Almost no LFB (1%) / Damping 50%

 

See attached video just crawling along in the super v8 - this happens regardless of damper settings in game or wheel software (this video was taken with both @ 100).

 

Updated with missing info: This video was Default/Default+, so my comment was void

Best,

-K

 

@Karsten Hvidberg
I’ve finally figured it out, the scrub and tear feeling was giving me grief, basically it felt like I was on flat tyres with flat spots every turn.
it was the tear effect, but it’s coming through my wheel too prominently.
But I found how to fix it.

The tear_threshold_scale 0.1

increasing this solves the issue (0.5) , so I see how that works now

it moves the feeling of the tear extreme towards the tyre grip limit. So the higher the threshold the more you have to be murdering the tyre before it simulates the torture of the tyre.

This file is pure genius, ( 5.0.2) and I think that’s the only adjustment I need , apart from I’ve lowered centering to 0.52 , and added a little smoothing to m_front_load_norm

The way the steering and balance feels with this version is actually changing some of my least liked cars into a joy to drive.

Kudos team.
We can probably just just delete all other tunes now, clear the thread, start a new fresh custom ffb thread.

 

Hello ! I'm using a SC2 Sport. I have Rfuktor 5.0.1. Are the settings in True Drive are goods ?


In game for example for the BMW 2002 Gain 60 / LFB 20 / FX 30 / DAMPING 15
Thanks for your comments

 

Your settings in True Drive are looking good to me, I'm using similar settings in there as well.

You may need to change your in-game FFB settings for some cars as your Gain and LFB values you are using for BMW 2002 seem quite high. They may work well for very low downforce cars like the BMW 2002 (I haven't tested that car by myself) but for very high downforce cars like Formula 1 using the Gain and LFB that high may give you, shall I say... quite intense moments.

I also recommend you to download the latest 5.0.2 version from the first page of this thread (in second post).

 

Great info Kuku, thank you!

I was wondering myself if we should not change (smooth FL_load_norm 0.01) and (smooth FR_load_norm 0.01) to something very slightly higher. I might just adjust it to 0.015 or 0.02, but I don't have the testing time right now..

Reg. the change to 0.5 it is too late for me, as the tear happens earlier, as I see it, but which car was this? Maybe what is playing us a trick is the way smoothing filtering and the hardware specs reg. slew rate and precision on various DD wheel bases.
Do you know if your base up-samples the ffb signal? or if playing with the base's smoothing filter might help?

Best,

-K

 

Based on feedback from @Kuku Maddog,

* Smoothed the load very slightly.
* Adjusted tear/slip a little as well.

Not as much as you'd like @Kuku Maddog, but I think we will need slight variations for both taste and wheel bases.

This version can be easily skipped, I'm just having a little time off fun.

5.0.4 attached:

 

To clarify - I only get those oscillations using the Default or Default+ FFB, not with anything derived from your rFuktor files. It's not a problem - I'm very happy with your latest custom file - I was just responding to the previous poster.

 

Hey MickT,

I had no idea Default or Default+ would ever do that, so I assumed it was rFuktor

 

Ok, so I just finished a session with the 5.0.4 and the Mclaren f1 GT1 on Nordschleife, truly AMAZING! I fell like it’s much easier to know where the limit is, and aldo I imagine I get a bit less feeling of just ”skidding around” in fast corners that I have experienced before.

I do get quite heavy oscillations on the back straight in full speed for example, but it’s not a huge issue when actually holding ok to the wheel. As pointed out earlier in this thread.

I run these settings in AMS atm eith the Simucube 2 Pro.
Gain: 34
LFB: 11
FX: 30
Damping ”Power steering”: 20

I set the Mclaren to 80% gain.

Just wanted to share my impressions.