Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. JDean

    JDean New Member

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    The Game feels complete different now. With Alegunners files i made some records, and never spin. Very good files for save sliding and drifting.
    What i miss is the understeer feeling from the old original file. The Steering goes lighter with less grip, like in the real world. So you can feel the edge of the tyre. This is important for long curves like Ibarra Race Track etc.
     
  2. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Everybody's Forum Hero @CrimsonEminence may have found the cause.

    It seems like the game has reverted to a lower frequency FFB.
    my hap hazard guess is its defaulted to PC2 rate for some people at least.

    to get around this please try adding this code into launch settings for game under game properties in steam.
    -ffb 600
     

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  3. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence Custom Title Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    That's not yet sure, just to be clear. It's a relatively fresh find. But i also found it to be better at -ffb 600 indeed.
     
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  4. pista hufnagel

    pista hufnagel New Member

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    Thank you Kuku and CrimsonEminence!
    The ffb is perfect again!
    Happy new year!
     
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  5. Canard

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    Hello everyone :) I just picked up AMS2 with a CSL DD and I'm amazed by the quality of the files shared in this topic, huge thanks to all the contributors.

    After playing for about a week with the CSL DD it occurs to me that, -driver wise-, I like my FFB the "cleanest" as possible:
    - linearity on; why would anyone use peak on such wheel base ? It seems to me as if I was listening to classical music with a big fat electro/hip hop equalizer. Change my mind if I'm missing something.
    - no driver damper; just a necessary evil to prevent oscillation, especially with Linearity on Peak setting, right ? Leave that to the game if possible.
    - lowest reasonable interpolation.

    Silver Raw rFuktor 5.0.3 works like a charm with such config, I was especially amazed how the car behaves in situation where default FFB oscillates. Feels so natural !

    Now I'd like to dig a bit into the effects covered by the FX slider, as I got the feeling that I have to put it as low as 15 to get the best tire grip feedback in corners, but I might miss out some effects doing so.
    Could anyone point them to me in the config file so I can try to isolate and tone down the one that prevents me to instinctively feel the edge of the grip ? Thanks !
     
  6. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks for this. It seems to be better now with that launch parameter.
     
  7. Mikk Schleifer

    Mikk Schleifer Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Oskar goes to Marius, calibrating the wheel brought back the real deal :)

    from 1.3.2.0 release thread:
    Could it be the wheel has been 'uncalibrate' with this update, so you've to calibrate it again? I was driving GT3 at Cascaval and noticed my wheel was little offset. I calibrated it and drove another lobby and no worries. FFB felt like before patch, I think so. Haven't raced a lot since Christmas.

    @CrimsonEminence
     
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  8. Shriukan

    Shriukan Touristenfahrten Community AMS2 Club Member

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    The interest of having Peak forces is to allow for higher short time forces. You aren't meant to use Peak to run your CSL DD at max force output since Peak is really just meant as a short burst of power that will cause the wheelbase to heat up quickly if it stays sustained (the top 25% of power output).
    The advantage of running linear is you can run your wheel at sustained high values knowing that the total output is also capped at 75% of the wheel's capability.
    The majority of players will run with peak forces but also avoid having sustained forces go beyond 60-70%. This allows for a relatively high force while still having room for bumps to be felt.
     
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  9. Canard

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    I think those peaks are too long for my taste, giving noticeably much more resistance even in long turns without bumps, then comparatively, a lack of feedback once in straights.
    But since I like to run minimal to no damper in driver, that might be an explanation as to why I feel this feature is brutal and unhelpful.
     
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  10. Gasngrip

    Gasngrip Member

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    Hello Guys,

    i was thinking about testing a custom ffb like rfuktor's
    i own a CSL DD, would the wheel settings still be the same as the one's recommended on fanatec's forum for CSL DD or they would need tweaking ?

    thanks
     
  11. AxisMagi

    AxisMagi Member AMS2 Club Member

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    The -ffb 600 fixed it for me, detail is back. Great detective work Crimson!
     
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  12. Canard

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    Turn off damping; rfuktor already manages it. Rest is up to you.
     
  13. torsteinvh

    torsteinvh Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Additional damping depends on your base…
    I need to use some damping on my DD1 to avoid oscillations.
     
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  14. tUMi

    tUMi Active Member

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    I must say that the -ffb 600 fix does make it better also for me in FFB detail so good job to all people who were involded discovering the fix!

    After the fix it's definitely easier to drive a car to it's limits. I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record here but I just managed to set another new world record on Nordschleife (took the #1 place back on leaderboard I lost to my friend SpeedFinn earlier today). :) I am now very near under 5 minute barrier in Nordschleife. If only I didn't f*cked up badly in sector 3... oh well, hopefully next time I can make the lap under 5 minutes (now I'm too tired)! :)

    http://www.dropbox.com/s/1p8dsmf6gk...schleife_tumi_world_record_03-01-22.png?raw=1

    http://www.dropbox.com/s/2vd4v0bmga..._world_record_03-01-22_sector_times.png?raw=1

    http://www.dropbox.com/s/dhuh5ku908...leife_tumi_personal_record_03-01-22.png?raw=1
     
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  15. Gasngrip

    Gasngrip Member

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    that is natural damper or game damper effects ?
     
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  16. Marcin

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    Hi what custom file are you using still 5.0.1?
     
  17. Gasngrip

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    i have CSL DD i think we can use the same value, NDP or DPR ?
     
  18. tUMi

    tUMi Active Member

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    Hello, @Marcin

    No, not 5.0.1 (or yeah, kind of... some parts of 5.0.1 are used in this file). I am currently using Kuku's hybrid file - Delta-S Evo Tune by Kuku (Primary scrub Plus). You can download it from the link in @Kuku Maddog 's signature but I can also post it here for easier access.

    No changes in True Drive (same TD settings as before still applies to this file), my in-game FFB settings are 35/10/30/20 (also for McLaren MP4/12 I'm using 80% vehicle specific FFB Gain with this file).
     

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  19. Canard

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    Custom FFB are technically a game's file, so the latter I guess.

    Code:
    #--- set damping or power_steering to static value or to match damping_slider
    (damping                      0.3)                #set static within range 0.0 - 1.0 or set to damping_slider
    (power_steering               damping_slider)    #set static within range 0.0 - 1.0 or set to damping_slider
     
  20. Marcin

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    Hi @tUMi , thank you. I will test this file.
     
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