What do you think is the most significant reason AMS2 userbase is so small?

So I've been thinking about that this evening. Obviously if player base is low people are paying something else so I made a short list to see how things compare. Of course I realise this is subjective, but anyway.

1. Lobby creation - by far the best out there. Hassle free MP race creation
2. VR - Amongst the best ones there
3. Graphics (pancake) - If not best then pretty close
4. Car choice - under par
5. Track choice - under par
6. Sound - there are better sims out there. Much better.
7. Physics - not the best but not bad either

To be honest I feel a bit weird to be such a great fan of this sim LOL
But hey, I am and I'm OK with it

 

Serious question, which popular tracks are lacking other than Le Mans and Indy (of which one or both may appear later this year)?

I think we already have the most popular tracks.

 

FYI - I have driven 740HP NASCAR cars for the Richard Petty school... I was also the liaison person for Fox Sports covering Hendricks Motorsports for NASCAR. Yeah... not sure I agree with your "ignorant of all the intricate details of oval racing". One can say "I've tried it" and my joke remains true about American wanting ovals.

 

Luckily we'll get them sometime this year!

 

Although Le Mans in just "one track" it's a pretty big one. Then there's Zandvoort, Hungaroring, Fuji and... yea on second thought you're right. We don't have them all (no one does) but we have most. Good point.

PS. Geeez I hope you're right about Le Mans coming here. That would be the greatest addition since Spa

 

I hope so too, Le Mans would really shine in AMS2, even more than in PC2 because you know they would have at least 4 layouts.

 

Other than those 2, I would really only say Sebring and Barcelona. A lot of must have tracks are in the game.

 

Very cool! And no disrespect intended, just always looking to get people to try ovals. Most dismiss it outright sadly.

 

I did for sure before the CART DLC came out and got me interested in the real life racing series. However my game experience is limited to PC2 ovals which were fairly boring.

 

I agree with you... there subtle nuances in oval racing that most people don't understand but it's so easy to make fun of, hard to resist

 

Hungaroring popular? It is tight, twisty, not many spots for overtaking, did not think it was popular and I have always hated driving it in sims and it my least favourite to watch for F1. I am only one person though, maybe it is more popular than I thought.

 

Haha, I was more shocked at him mentioning Zandvoort. I don't know anyone that likes that track.

 

Haha? Not sure what's so funny about that. I think Zandvoortis a great track. Not to everyone's liking maybe but it's challenging. Hungaroring is historic and very technical. I don't rate a good rack merely on how easy it's to overtake there. It's not the number one track for spectators but for driving it's tricky and rewards good driving. But we're departinufrom the topic...

+1 for Sebring btw

Edit: Alfonso described Hungaroring as "a great track". Ricardo "I like Hungaroring". Max "Very difficult track to master" - which is exactly what I'm talking about. Ericsson "very technical" and "intense". Leclerc "very technical". Perez "lot of corners that can catch you out and it’s a big challenge to get a clean lap". Ocon "narrow, but it’s still very fast. There are a lot of quick changes of direction and the corners come one after the other with no chance to catch a breath. That’s what I really like about it"
Maybe I'm not the only one who thinks this is not a sh!t track but hey, it must be if you don't know anyone who likes it

 

As its turning into a wishlist thread, how about Zolder and/or Oschersleben? Both good fun and feature in various series..
Back on point, I think once people can jump in and get a consistent experience, Im sure the numbers will bump up, especially once future intended features make an appearance. I quote -

" Honestly what I am most happy about in regards to this update, is that none of the cars I love that weren't listed in the changelog got borked in any way. I always worry when the bigger updates come out, but so far, sunshine and roses for me."
That kind of sums up the challenge and consequence of post release development quite well I thought.

In the meantime for those who want a single player immersive experience beyond hotlapping or single races its suffering a bit from the same issues rf2 had. Fundamentally it takes too much faffing to dial in the experience/difficulty moving from race to race, weather difficulty with ai is all over the place, tyres can show unusual characteristics like slicks being faster than wets in rain etc etc, and there is little or no reward in gameplay terms for actually setting all this stuff up in a way that works, so why bother. Multiplayer has its own issues but Im not familiar with those. Its fair to say that although the initial impressions are really good, easy to jump in and get going, good visuals etc etc, past a few hours of gameplay its really a case of rinse and repeat at the moment. I have my cockpit here next to me, wheel light on, and although I want to jump in and race Im really not feeling any real sense of excitement about it. I know there will be 3 cars at the front, a gaggle in the middle, and a few at the back. It will feel like Im hotlapping and there just happens to be a race going on around me but Im not really a part of it as such. I know therell be ai who are just not there yet. In short, I wont feel like Ive done anything that I havent done before, and if I do then it wont matter in any gameplay sense anyway.
So in the meantime I play KSP RP1 and a few other games. It doesnt mean Ive written AMS2 off or anything. I just dont think its finished yet in terms of meeting my expectations. If it never reaches that point, no big deal. There's other stuff out there and it will still be in my library, but I think it will reach that point in the future and so I maintain a presence here and follow the updates with interest.

 

Targa Florio

 

Pikes Peak, tarmac, gravel and mixed surface versions: 1994, 2001, 2011.

1994 is interesting because the gravel was quite solidified in that year, almost tarmac like,
2001 was 50/50 gravel/tarmac
2011 full tarmac

 

Be honest with yourselves, the track you really want is the Salzburgring.

 

Wow. Just beautiful