What do you think is the most significant reason AMS2 userbase is so small?

I feel that AMS2 (and AC for sure) has a very high percentage of offline players. With ACC, I feel that a higher percentage of players are there for the online experience. Rennsport to me is heavily geared toward online competition (based on their preview videos). Unless they show off some offline features I don't see them as competition for AMS2.

In the end, I'm all for more sims and I look forward to trying them all. I'm odd for a sim racer in that I really liked PC2, so to be honest, outside of AMS2's future content, I'm most excited for GTR Revival.

 

AMS2 will never overtake ACC regarding online participation for one simple reason: In ACC you can race GT3 @Spa with more car variety

 

and do endurance team events

 

I agree. ACC is the current king of GT3 with a VERY robust multiplayer system. I think AMS2 should focus on the content that is missing from ACC (tracks, cars, etc).

 

lol
PC2 offers more GT3 cars than ACC to people who want race them at spa (or monza).
even rF2 has 14 GT3 cars (plus mods)
also, you probably talking about public lobbies. in leagues (where most ACC players are) spa and monza are just two tracks in the rotation...
IMO, quantity is not the reason that most people chose ACC as their main (GT3/GT4) sim.
(i always except iRacing from these comparisons first because no stats available and second its pricing/subscription model makes it a category of its own, actually)

lets hope that at some point, AMS2 single player and its aboundance (and excellence for some in this forum) can come close to ACC or overpass other sim titles. multiplayer at... spa can wait.

 

And dedicated servers work better and are more user friendly
ACC lacks content but is (apart from VR), a highly optimized and polished experience. AMS2 has a ton of content on the other hand, but misses more polish and optimization of the content and features that are there. So both games could take a page out of each others book.

 

Yeah, that SRO affiliation could generate some really cool DLC. BPR Global GT anyone?

 

I think this is an excellent summary. ACC is by far the most 'complete' of the major sims. Nice interface, built in radar HUD and race engineer, career mode, plus great multiplayer options with LFM. I know it wasn't like this at release but currently it feels like a 'finished' game. Personally I don't find the driving feel that exciting and lack of car variety bores me, whereas AMS2 I like for these very reasons, but there are still so many rough edges (especially with multiplayer).

 

I don't think SRO and Kunos would be looking at the past. The reason Kunos and SRO are together is because SRO was looking for a way to promote to young public their series. Bring in new fans which every motorsports series is struggling for. Historical series won't appeal to newcomers, but rather to people who already know and love motorsports.

 

MP sucks big time. Thats the reason.

 

MP & big marketing plays the role here but I would drop my 5 cents on the really underwhelming Demo.

No one (“ordinary PC player”) wants to even try those low powered cars.

Especially if they sound dull like in AMS 2 demo. For example, I just take a ride with Copa Petrobras free demo and it’s a day & night experience.

 

agreed, the demo is so poor it would be better to not have it available , I recommended ams2 to a pal they tried the demo then asked me why on Earth I recommended to him

 

In my eyes this Demo was more a paid commercial for VW and a cause of the financial healthyness of REIZA at the moment. So at the end of the day not completely poor desicion to make the demo....
And yes, Copa de Marcas Petrobras was the initial ignition for my love to REIZA. Just another "real DEMO" of this quality would be outstanding....

 

Imo after Reiza puts multiplayer in a better state it would be interesting if they did a Steam free weekend, that would be way better than the demo for people who want to give the game a try.

 

After spending some time with PC2 again, I think trophies, hot lap challenges and some sort of career mode will keep people around. Everyone is different and others couldn't care less about that stuff and only race online. Luckily both are in the works so everyone will be happy at some point.

Looking at the recent beta releases on SteamDB, it looks like they've been very busy over the past few weeks...

 

I jumped into AMS2 last night after years with AC and ACC. Very impressed with the Force Feedback - way better than PCars. The VR experience was amazing (my primary reason for taking a look). This will be my go to racing sim for the foreseeable future.

 

I'm brazilian, and even here the game is not popular or well known, still very niche (even for a niche sim racing game). So, in my opinion the game needs more advertising a lot more, maybe a major AAA publisher to help boost it? Also, from a particular point of view, it needs some better textures cause all cars looks like are made of plastic lol, and more mp content.

 

Maybe the userbase aren't small, maybe they are far away?

 

I'm 190cm (6'3") tall so certainly not small!

 

So i don't count with my 165cm?