Hey everyone, as I was making plans to finally upgrade my racing gear (which mostly consists of a Logitech G25, my desk and a few bits of addons here and there) last year, I decided to give myself an early Christmas present and ordered the SHH Simulations Thorn Shifter. I've heard good things about it and it looked solid and really well made, not to mention the (IMHO very fair) price point. This is the one I am talking about: SHH SHIFTER THORN Thanks to the people at SHH working like crazy, my shifter did arrive in early December (yay!), but so far I have only had the chance to try it with my setup once (in AMS2, obviously ) before my operating system disk failed and I was busy getting my PC to work again. What I found so far is that the resistance of the shifter, particularly the lateral resistance, is far too high for my taste and purpose. That being said, after mailing back and forth with the excellent support from the guys at SHH Simulation, this is in part due to the high mounting position on my desk - ideally, the shifter should be mounted much lower (as in closer to the shifter in a real car). Additionally, there is still one more tweak left that can further reduce shifting resistance (although according to SHH, the lateral resistance can not be adjusted). In any case, the reason I am turning to my fellow AMS2 sim racers today is this: The Thorn unit comes with an H-Pattern and Sequential knob each, but both are AFAIK made from some kind of plastic and also covered with silicone, which I am allergic to (yes that is a real thing ). While I wear gloves when sim racing, I would like to switch these knobs with something heavier and sturdier made out of metal. Also, bonus points if the knobs are longer to give the shifter more throw (and thus less resistance when shifting). So if any of you out there happen to have the same kind of shifter (or the older SHH Newt unit), did you change the gear knobs? And if so, which knobs did you get? I'm on a really tight budget here unfortunately (so I've had to cancel my plans of getting a wheel stand and Moza R5 setup due to sad and unforeseen events), so I would also appreciate parts that aren't too expensive. Many thanks in advance! P.S.: According to Aritz from SHH Simulation the only knobs that would fit the stick are the ones that come with those three fat, black adapters (which I think is a newer kind of mounting adapter?). Others won't fit, so there's that to keep in mind as well.
...anyone? I'd honestly thought this shifter was way more popular. Still hoping to hear some thoughts about possible knob replacements from my fellow AMS2 players, though.
I can't get an exact measurement right now, but the thread has a diameter of approximately 1.8 centimeters, with the rest of the lever above and below the thread being around 0.8 centimeters wide. According to the descriptions I received from SHH, something like this one should fit since it includes the three black adapters: https://www.amazon.de/EBTOOLS-Schal...l-Adaptern/dp/B07SFD7XJL/?_encoding=UTF8&th=1 (Sorry for German, but you get the idea) From what I understand the adapters aren't actually used, instead the knob is screwed straight onto the shift lever (which might make it hard to get the correct orientation for knobs that aren't fully round).
The shifter's shaft has a thread size, knobs have a thread size and adapters for different sizes. No matter if straight to the knob or adapted, if sizes match it's good to go. Regarding selection of knob type, I think the one you linked is quite good for both modes without changing them. Not completely round, not completely straight. Personally I use the default round knob on my TH8A, and I don't find it difficult to shift sequentially with it.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Not sure about this one in particular as reviews said there are quality issues (cracks appearing after a few months, etc.), but I can definitely see it being a good choice for both H-pattern and sequential modes (and swapping knobs over and over again does get old quickly I reckon). What's the resistance on the TH8A like? The Thorn has a really high resistance to overcome, especially in sequential mode; which is why I am thinking about getting a separate cylinder-shaped knob for that purpose later on, preferably an extra long one. In any case, it seems I will need to figure out a proper mounting solution. The peculiarities of my desk don't make it a suitable option, and even if I've had to abandon my wheel and pedal upgrade plans for now I might still need to get a wheel stand sooner rather than later. Looking on the bright side, I just got rid of an old wardrobe last month so I now have enough spare room to store it when it's not in use.
Decent resistance on H pattern, non existant in sequential. A mod is on the way to remedy the latter.
There tend to be a few shifter knob sizes that are considered a standard. A quick Google search reveals that SHH Shifter Thorn thread to be 8mm - although I can't verify if this is accurate or not as I don't have one. If you don't have a pair of calipers, grab a piece of string, ruler and a calculator. Wrap the string around the shaft, measure it with a ruler, then divide the result by Pi. If it's an 8mm shaft it should be approximately 25mm in circumference (with the string) The other important number with M (metric) threads is the thread pitch. In this case I'm guessing it's 1.25 (coarse). So essentially, you can buy any shifter knob you want as long as you can get a thread adapter to suit. I actually designed and 3d-printed one for M14x1.5 down to M10x1.25 I think it was as I just simply couldn't find one to buy online - and it worked surprisingly well printed both with PLA and PETG. With all that in mind, I myself am awaiting delivery (hopefully tomorrow!) of a Simagic DS-8X shifter. Very much looking forward to it I was looking at the SHH but ended up settling on the Simagic as hopefully a be all and end all for both H-pattern and sequential, something I'll never ever need to upgrade from.
Hi, I have one shh shifter, and I bought a Citroen C3 shifter knob on Walmart.ca, it came with adapter but I didn’t need to use it. I just attached it on the shifter, you can control the shifter length just screwing the knob more or less depending on your preference. Worked really well, and it cost around 12$ only.
I got an SHH Shifter ten years ago (in November) and it's still going great, had a couple of different gear knobs for it over the years including the handle from a fishing rod which worked quite well. Eventually settled on a longer knob as the shaft was beginning to bend, with the longer one it gives it more strength and stability and it's still going strong today. I'll post a picture later. (Hard not to snigger isn't it ) Actually I've had more than I thought, quick research; - Original which for some reason I didn't like. - then the aforementioned fishing rod handle. - 2016 I got the bottom one in the picture below, this is the shorter one that caused the metal rod underneath to start bending. - so I upgraded in 2018 to the one in the top picture. Both not available on Amazon anymore, both were under £13. Edit: I also got a custom logo on the shifter itself, pics later. Edit 2: I only use it for Sequential Shifting to help simulate V8Supercars, rarely if ever used the H-Pattern. aahh can't quite see my logo as it's hidden behind my SNES controller (which acts as a button box)
I ordered one of these shifters a couple of days ago. They said it will be ready to ship by the 21st February, so I have got a bit of a wait. Today I went to check on my order on their website and found it would not load. Edge reports this as "This page isn't working at the moment", hopefully just a temporary issue as they have taken my money.
Just checked, and it does seem to be a (temporary) technical issue on their end. That being said, if anything should turn out to have not worked with your order, just shoot them an email, and I'm sure they can help you. Even with my (admittedly) somewhat odd issues regarding the stiff resistance they have been extremely helpful. But yeah, when I checked their page just a few days ago I was surprised to see that their backorders now go up to late February. For some reason I must've gotten lucky when I ordered in early December and still received my unit before Christmas! Also, thanks a lot for the input @MarcG and @mmertens ! I did actually end up ordering the metal knob I linked in the fourth post of this thread, figuring it was the best of the cheap options out there. It has yet to arrive, though, and I also need to figure out a way to mount the shifter unit in a way that works for me. (On a side note, I also ended up removing the extra washer to further reduce the resistance. It's actually much less stiff now except for the lateral resistance and the initial "bump" you need to overcome in sequential mode.) But I'm not in a hurry anyway, as I haven't even set up my other gear on my new Windows installation yet. So much to do (and enjoy), so little time! Why a day only has to have 24 hours, I will never understand.
Thank you for confirming that it wasn't just me who couldn't reach their website. Also it is great to hear that they are helpful when contacted. I will wait to see what happens regarding their website and hopefully mine will arrive sometime before the end of February.
You should be able to extend the shifter shaft too, not only to change the knob, the combination of the two should improve gear changes and be smoother (less resistance). Btw, since it can be used as sequential stick I would go for something like this
Did you ever get anywhere with this? I am in a similar boat, just bought a "universal" shifter knob but turns out that doesn't fit.
Mine hasn't arrived yet. It's supposed to get here on Monday, although I'm not holding my breath... apparently these things are being shipped straight from China. I'll definitely let you know how it compares to the original one (if it fits, though it should), although I still haven't found a good and solid mounting solution.
Hey good news. I found a knob that fits, no extra hardware needed, it screws right on. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0188ULUTS?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1
Well, that looks nice and isn't too expensive, either! Sadly it's not available in my location (Germany). Also, there seems to be some issue with my shipment. There had been no new information on Amazon's own tracking page since the 9th, but when I checked the Chinese site of the parcel service directly, there were some updates indicating problems up to the 17th... and nothing since. And since it wasn't delivered today, Amazon set another deadline for the 30th... But I'm not getting my hopes up. Hopefully I'll be able to find a decent alternative to the one I ordered.
