1.6 - Issues with grip

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Inkta, Jan 23, 2025.

  1. Siggi_Stoppschild

    Siggi_Stoppschild Active Member

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    Greetings from Germany to the US! :cool:
    Nice lap! Which car is it?

    Back to topic: Would you be so king sharing your setup for any of the GT3 Gen2 cars with me?
    I would love to test them!
     
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  2. GFoyle

    GFoyle Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    This is what I feel and have wrote earlier too, it feels as the weight/load/grip is on front and if you trail brake deeper or have a lot of engine braking, the front just overpowers the rear.

    I haven't checked / analyzed this from telemetry though, but all the setup changes that aim to weaken the front and speed up the load/weight transfer to rear seem to help with the issue. Even with setups where this has been done to the extreme as possible, the underteer you can have in entry or mid corner is still not hugely problematic and you don't seem to get much if any understeer on exit on throttle (you either get rotation from diff or the cars don't squat enough to weaken the front to make a difference).

    Also setups that minimize the amount of dive is allowed seems to work, with the prototypes also setups where you are maximizing the bump stops and or springs and minizing dampers seem to work well.

    I doubt it's not generic physics thing though, more like tuning and balancing certain classes / cars / tires further. Even now you can adjust the setups enough to balance it out quite a bit. I think you can still lean into the tires and push without losing it if you get that balance right with the setup. It just won't get be as understeery compared to LMU on average / default setups (also the TC in AMS2 doesn't prevent rear stepping out on throttle as much as it does in LMU on higher TC settings).

    Even with the current behavior and possible imperfections, I find it's fun and engaging to drive those cars in AMS2.
     
  3. DaWorstPlaya

    DaWorstPlaya Active Member

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    Greetings to my friend in Germany. Thanks for the compliment.
    Sure I'll try to message you the tune later when I have some free time if you would like to test.
     
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  4. Siggi_Stoppschild

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    I‘m looking forward to here from you and to test your setups!
     
  5. Brent Mills

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    Someone in this thread mentioned that the GTE's don't have this problem and after another frustrating spin out in a lfm race I gave them a go, and wow the difference is massive, so much better in the GTE's. It feels like they've gone overboard on the loss of grip over the limit on the GT3's specifically, almost seems like a miscalculation in the code possibly. The GTE's are so much more enjoyable to drive and I've emailed LFM support to consider swapping out the GT3's for GTE for this reason.
    I really hope Reiza take a serous look at this, something just feels very off.
     
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  6. GFoyle

    GFoyle Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I haven't driven the GTE's for a while, but I don't feel the GT3's are that off that I would call it "very off"

    In theory, it could be always in you machine. One thing to try is to cut-paste your setups folder somewhere else and restarting the game to see if changes anything with the GT3's.

    I don't see GT3's spinning that much in the LFM races I race (I drove the lmdh in those), so either there is something wrong in your side or it's more of a skill and driving style problem... Though I do agree that it's not that hard to lose the rear in those, especially if you don't change the setup to mitigate the tendency to do that.
     

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