General Chit-Chat

So just for my fun little experiment, I did indeed do a bunch of laps in the 911 GTR around Spa in both ACC and AMS2. Bearing in mind my times are bad, because I'm just not that fast at Spa and I haven't put a huge amount of time into mastering the circuit.

Here's the verdict:
ACC's driving model, much like AC, tends towards understeery cars.
AMS2's driving model feels more 'balanced' with a tendency towards oversteer.

Times using default setups (Safe/Stable in ACC)
Results in ACC: 2:28 flat after several laps (2 restarts)
Results in AMS2: 2:23.8 after 3 laps (2 restarts, one deleted time)

Obviously all this proves is that I'm more used to AMS2's driving style, it doesn't make it better. So I set up the 911 for a more understeery setup just for the hell of it:

First 'completed' lap was 0.6 up after my best Radillon/Eau Rouge, but same time by the end of the lap

Second completed lap I changed to Default+ (I normally use Default, but Default+ is a lot more like the FFB in ACC) I was 1.1 seconds slower.

And for completeness, of course, I went into ACC and set up for more oversteer-oriented. Only managed to put together one complete lap before I got bored of making mistakes and it was 2 seconds slower than my best in the default Safe setup. I will say though that it was hard to feel what was going on with the rear until I'd already lost the back end (through FFB). That can possibly be tweaked in settings.

So the conclusion?
They're different. I wouldn't say one is better than the other. One could, in fact, argue quite strongly that "ACC is really slidey" when coming from AMS2, but in reality you're going from a more balanced/oversteer oriented setup, to a more understeer-oriented setup.

And in both cases, even with my moderate car setup changes you can indeed modify a car's setup to better reflect the other game.

All that I've proven is that you're good at what you do the most of. If I was to switch to ACC as my main sim, and get used to driving cars with more understeer, then I can imagine making the switch back to AMS2 and more oversteer would be very frustrating and daunting. I'd say this is probably why people do get so upset about AMS2 being "slidey" because oversteer is less forgiving when you don't know how to manage it, whereas if the front lets go first then you're more likely to just slide in the direction you were already traveling. And seeing as it's highly likely that the majority of people are driving FWD and AWD cars in real life, both of which are far more likely to understeer, it probably feels more unnatural to jump into a car that oversteers.

I say this, but I've owned and regularly driven an equal number of FWD and RWD cars, as well as three AWD cars (one RWD-oriented, one FWD-oriented, and one Subaru). So, you can never tell

 

I’m curious, does the game generate a log file for single players sections?

 

Nop by the sim itself AFAIK. There are apps like Second Monitor that do that by accessing the shared memory API.

 

he is right about tc. needs fix to help the game to drive smoothly through corners:

 

Since we don’t know the full picture of the sim I would say we can’t say “tc needs to be fixed”. Me and a lot of theirs thought the tyres were the problem with corner exit oversteer, but it was fixed with adjustments to yaw sensitivity. This shows we don’t know the full story so we can’t say what’s will fix what

 

Game developers often try to simplify TC to help players, but the result is unrealistic.

 

What even is realistic TC ?! Who here drove a real racecar with TC and can tell what the game does with TC is correct or not.

 

Driving each car just two laps with cold tires is meaning absolutely nothing, is it too much to ask for drive a car for like 20 minutes and even do some races to get an actual opinion on the cars? I enjoy some of his content but he sadly his AMS2 videos really seem like made in a rush to just cover the content. Last time he took the M4 GT3 with cold tires, did a like 2:24 on Spa within two laps and claimed the car was horrible. Then just don't feature it if you have absolutely no interest in actually getting into it

I dont think TC is an issue in AMS2, it works but if you want the car to get rid of all of your spin (which you don't since it slows you down) you have to set it to max. If your rear still steps out too much in current state of the game it's definitely not the TC, but your own bad driving technique/too aggressive inputs. TC is not there to let you stay on full throttle like a maniac and stay safe with it, if it kicks in all the time you should adjust your throttle input.

 

LOL yeah - driving around with 67 degree tyres and thinking you have an idea about how it is likely to drive. Less than eighty, time to waity. Over a hundred, end of the fun(dred).