Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Ah, thx, will update both things in the file to work as you posted here.

Thanks!

 

Forgot to mention fei at 100 is pretty bad on my csw 2.5, harsh and grindy, way better at 50 or 60.

 

Hey Karsten, kerbs are fixed for sure, changed them down to 0.2 and could tell the difference straight away.
The oscillation still there, dunno if u tried to do anything to it, but basically for me! the car is super light when it is still in the pits and you can throw the steering wheel from side to side and it keeps on bouncing from side to side weightless right!

When you are on track underload or off this lightness is still there and why wouldn't right? You can feel the weight of the car as soon as you turn to get out of the pits but it doesn't remain constant, for instance, when you are going down the straight at speed the car is heavy if throw from side to side, but only noticeable and responsive after the initial input push to either side, what I mean by that, is that it doesn't matter whether at speed or not the car feels weightless until you turn the wheel and require an active force feedback force. The resistance weight that you get from the steering from car to car is not there.

Is like if every car in the game only applied ffb to the wheel in specific windows of movement instead of upon selection of it and loaded on track, if that makes any sense.

Dunno if that helps, and if you experienced that too, but back a few Reiza updates we had this problem and you fixed it quite easily if I remember correctly.

 

Ok, thx, there must be a bug, will look tomorrow, I hope

Cheers!

 

I'm sorry Karsten, but the technicalities of what is going on behind the scenes or why it's happening are pretty much irrelevant to the end-user. The "large" FFB profile feels weak and pretty numb to me, hence I opted for the "small" file. It's admirable and understandable that you're defending your work, but it's how it feels to the person using it that matters, not the validity of the way it's coded or the words used to describe it.

You created this thread to discuss, post, and provide feedback on custom FFB files. You said you did not want to control the thread. Feedback and opinions is what you're getting, and now you'd rather people only post if it's positive and non-critical? You can't have it both ways mate. You also shouldn't take negative feedback so personally. It's just a person's opinion... it isn't right, it isn't wrong, and it doesn't reflect personally upon you or the staggering effort you've made, or the huge contribution you've made to the custom profile scene. Chill dude.

 

Hey Goffik,

I was not really responding to your statement, but more to the technical reasoning given why it would be weak, hence the technical response.
I agree the feel is what matters most to most people.

I have no intentions of controlling anything, but I am free to voice what I find productive just like anybody else.

Cheers

 

Update:

* Simpler rack control, closer to Default, but with LFB "bug" fix/road details.
* Friction added & set to 15%. Wip, will be improved a little later.

The general idea for the "big file" will change to lean more towards "Default", but with many improvements and fun things in place(LFB "bug" fix, road details, road detection, smoothing, friction, scrub, kerbs, weights, optimal ffb non-clip, no-ffb-scale, dynamic engine vibes, rolling road effect, smart sliders, etc etc..). Right now it might feel worse than Default to some, but that's in the minor adjustments to make better, just takes a few iterations .

Needs adjustments, is wip, weights still not adjusted perfectly. This will come.
(Might find time for dampening in the weekend... Would be fun)

Btw: If anybody feels like pitching in directly on the file, it sits in Github & I will be happy to share access. Just post me a direct message. The more the merrier

Custom ffb file attached "Friction":

 

Hi All,

I am experiencing FFB deadzone issues at the center of the wheel

I am on a G29, the wheel and FFB is great except when the wheel is centered: there is no FX and the wheel feels 'dead' on straights. I use very high settings for FX (85) with no clipping (monitoring for them with a specific tool)

Overall my settings for FFB are 65/80/85 for Gain/Sub/FX

Is this something that other people experience?
It is already known problem?
Anyway I can report the bug?

Thanks
G.

 

LFB generates a little Minforce, but you can set it in custom ffb file in documents folder to the correkt value.
WheelCheck.exe

I can't upload it, but you will find it in the web.

 

Hi Manuel,

thanks for the reply.

I am on Linux via Proton, not sure what WheelCheck.exe is, but I'll peek in the various dirs and online. And report back

Cheers
M.

 

Absolutely true, and I never said you weren't. But you yourself were specifically asking people not to post a particular type of view / criticism. That's trying to control the discussion.

But hey, my post promoting the freedom of speech, freedom to criticise, and freedom to post opinions has received only dislike reactions. I guess that shows what kind of society we live in, huh? Damn sheeple these days. So do what you like. I'm done here.

 

Hey Goffik,

No worries, I respect your opinions. Not everything comes through in the posts we make & we all misunderstand each other in so many ways. You are right that my ask to stay in a productive tone can be read as controlling, but really, it was just an ask that I think would help to avoid the route that ends in you/me finger pointing. Anybody can disagree to my ask, just as you did. Yes, I(or others that agree to that) might not personally like that, but that is all. I have no hard feelings for anything you've said & I hope likewise.

I would like to add that you've contributed equally greatly yourself here with opinions, feedback and your thoughts on many issues. To me that is the main point of being here. Forget the actual files really. It's the interaction with like-minded that counts to me & it would really be a shame to see you leave. I really mean that. I hope to see you posting again soon!

Cheers

 

Hey Alegunner & @F.Santos ,

Here no_scale_ffb is now bug fixed.

FYI: Friction is at 15% in the file, which depending on your settings outside the game might be too high.

Fixed no_scale_ffb "Friction" file:

 

To be fair, at the time @Goffik and I posted about this, the problems stated were an issue in your file. It wasn't until your later posts where you increased rack_scale that it was fixed, prior tho that the rack force was ~10% lower than default. And without my sigmoid clipping function some people would have still experienced clipping / force flat spots with rack_force at 1.0 and 100% gain.

I'm not sure why you got so defensive about it, maybe I could have pointed out the issue in a different way?

 

Yes the same with me the FEI at 100 on CSW 2.5 was to grundy, 50-60 feels way better.

 

Karsten, thanks for another file mate! The weightlessness is definitely gone, but the overall feel is not right. The heaviness felt now from this file in every car is like a separated belt movement which doesn't match the swerve weight from side to side.

I've been using Nus latest file and the impression that I get switching between his and default is that in one I have scrub, track details and kerbs and the other not (Reiza's), but the same ffb. In yours, I get kerbs coming through slightly different(adjustable), but also a car rolling feel down the straight that I like, but the weight of the car still not right.

 

Ahh, yes you are right, thanks!
I know what is wrong. Will fix!

Cheers!

 

In your first post you claimed the weaker signal was due to method, which it was not. Weights & Sigmoid is apples to oranges.
There was no "issue" in the method of the file.

Based on the "too weak" feedback I strengthened it. Unrelated to the Sigmoid function, but sure it's a nice addition.

I will happily elaborate if that is required at a later time.

Cheers

 

Hello,
here are the FFB-File in german. I have translated it with goolge, but many things are not realy plausible or korrect translatet. Rack are "Zahnstange der Lenkung" and not only Rack.
I hope to help the germans to find better settings and we all get a better understanding for this extrem opportunities, what this engine brings us and this file.
Btw. i don't change the values, its only a changing of the language.

Thank you!

 

Hay Manuel,

Cool stuff!

Be advised that there currently is a minor issue with the file & I will post you the fix when done.
Also there is the "small file" done by @NuScorpii that has another feel to it, that you might want as well!

Cheers!