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  1. Scraper

    Scraper Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Jimmy Broadbent is also having fun:

     
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    Scraper Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    ...and after two generally positive videos, one that requests a few improvements:

     
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    The wind is changing...
     
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  5. GregzVR

    GregzVR P1 passion, P10 talent.

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    Driving the Formula V10 Gen 1 at Monaco, with some Formula V12 cars thrown in for visual & audio variety. As usual, I start slowly, but get up to speed as I learn the car and track combination. The CPU cars’ skill level: 100%.
     
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    ...the first 15m of a recent online race I took part in, driving the racing version of the Ultima GTR for 10 laps at Bathurst. Whoever set up the lobby forced default setups, which really isn't my cup of tea, but it was an opportunity for me to try a few laps in this car, as I hadn't driven it before. I finished 3rd, which I'm happy with, given my unfamiliarity with the car & my sloppy driving on a few occasions :) (This is AMS 2 ver 1.0.1.2. I'm using Crew Chief, which I enjoy & the comments can be helpful in terms of your situational awareness. Most common racing titles are supported. I suggest if you do use it, make sure swearing is enabled as it's not by default & I missed it during initial setup).

     
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  8. lukester

    lukester Trey Ulbraking AMS2 Club Member

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    I've been having such a blast around Silverstone '75 I thought I'd do a quick comparison of my first love (see avatar) vs. my current love. Because, erm, that can never go wrong!

    Had to spend a while finding a car in AMS2 that was of similar pace ... 0.2s in it at the end! Amazing how accurate the REVS tracks were, given the limitations of the hardware. What a legend Geoff is.

     
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  9. GregzVR

    GregzVR P1 passion, P10 talent.

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    The accuracy and smoothness of REVS there would’ve been amazing in 1994 on a DOS PC, never mind an on 8-BIT BBC Micro 10 years earlier, with a tiny fraction of the performance.

    Geoff Crammond is a true god walking amongst us.
     
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  10. muz_j

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    Those were the days. I have never played revs, but owned and played all of his Grand Prix series of games, from F1GP to Grand Prix 4. Those were amazing at the time and GP4 still holds up now, even to this day on a Windows 10 PC. I still have a copy of it in my old games archive.
    Amazing too when you look at his bio and he clearly said he wasn't really even interested in motorsports or racing prior to starting to work on racing sims.
    "A former defence industry systems engineer,[1] he claims to have had little interest in motor racing before programming his first racing game (Formula 3) back in 1984, but he holds a physics degree, which may explain the realism of some of his programming."
    Geoff Crammond - Wikipedia

    this is a nice high level article - short, but concise and to the point:
    Geoff Crammond, The Lone Programmer

    ...he's one of a few of his type, who have contributed a massive amount to racing simulators and simulators in general. Creating a game of this type requires a certain type of person - in my opinion.
     
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    8 laps of fun in the Formula Classic Gen 3's at Cascias - a Portuguese track I hadn't driven, but I'll definitely be driving again.

     
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    I'm going to leave this here as a reminder (that hopefully the developers might see) about which group of Cars I'm looking forward to seeing get released for AMS 2 :)
    I'd gladly take either the C9 or C11 any day of the week, so I'm praying one of those are in the works. If posting non game videos in this thread is not permitted, please feel free to remove this post. If you watch this video, make sure you volume isn't too high, as the start up noise is a touch loud, but in a good way.

     
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  13. GregzVR

    GregzVR P1 passion, P10 talent.

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    I could drive these cars all day long. I was enjoying myself so much, that I forgot to save the replay at the end of the run lol. :confused:

     
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    Formula Classic Gen 1's - 5 laps around Donington National.
    I love driving these cars, but sometimes they don't seem to like me much, but it's really fun trying to balance the acceleration out of corners without sliding them out or spinning off etc. In this video I have verified that roll over physics are indeed working correctly (just after the 4min mark) - but I don't think the AI driver appreciated my driving much.

     
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    yep, they have quickly become a favorite of mine. I like both generations of them too.
    nicely balanced and really fun when you get a section of track done.
     
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    GregzVR P1 passion, P10 talent.

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    What appeared to be a relatively simple race on paper, turned out to be anything but! :(:confused:
    Formula Classic Gen 1 at Silverstone 1975, for a tough, carnage-filled, 20-lap race.
    With no 1987-1990 version of Silverstone available, this is the closest we can currently get, to a layout that suits these mid/late 1980s-based F. Classic Gen 1 cars. CPU skill level: 105%

     
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    Man, I would love it if setups were included in these videos or an informative how-to video for this game would be even better. I just starting sim racing and set-ups can be a bit intimidating.
     
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    Nice to see these cars being driven in VR. At some point i'll move to VR myself, but at the moment I need to focus on other priorties.
    I love it when you get a good crash to drive past. That car's motor seemed to let go or something, as that's a decent cloud of smoke :)
     
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    I honestly think you would be better off learning to understand car setups and adjustments yourself - but that's my opinion.
    That way you will develop your own settings for your own style and understand how to adjust it as the situation changes. Different weather, temperatures and the race distance for example all play a role in how I adjust my car settings - as well as other factors, driving style is a big one too.
    Take one look at GregzVR's video above and mine prior to that and you can instantly see we have very different driving styles in the same car. He's also running his AI opponents 5% higher than me. It is what it is though and that generally changes over time as you get better with a game. Quite a bit of my own preferences for driving come from my motorcycling experience. The Formula Classic style of cars appeal to me for example as they remind me of 2 stroke motorcycles with their power delivery. I'm revving the thing hard, limiter bouncing and throttle blipping, to try and keep the revs up and the turbo on boost - as that's how I like to drive. Greg's got a much smoother style going on in his video.
    If we're both happy driving as we are - I wouldn't say either way is better - at the end of the day it's all about lap times.
    ...do you see my general point ?
    I suspect we both have different preferences with car setups and again, I don't consider anyone else's settings to be better or worse than mine - they are someone else's preferences. It's exactly the same in the real world - I've seen pro drivers, motorcycle racers and pro mountain bikers all get good results with radically different setups. It raises the question of if one is objectively better than the other ?
    From my perspective, it comes down to who wins the race on the day in question.
    My main advice again is to learn the basics - which is going to take you some time. You will probably want to watch / read various things - both from the real world and from other sim racers.
    Here's a really good series that goes through a lot of stuff, with an episode on each. It's from Project Cars 2 (the same game engine as this one), but the game is really irrelevant. You can use the same knowledge in any racing sim - rFactor 2, Assetto Corsa, ACC etc
    Take your pick and start with one topic and work your way through. Skip anything you see no value in and practise.
    https://www.youtube.com/c/Yorkie065/search?query=setups+episode
     
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  20. ChuckieG

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    Hey muz_j. Thanks for the thoughtful reply! I think the problem was that I recently purchased too many games, downloaded many mods and don't have as much time as I would like to play them all. But I hear what you're saying. So for now, I think I'll stick with just a few cars with a focus on learning setups rather than jumping into every car/mod/track I have. It's possible that I may be sim racing for the long run, so I think it's necessary. I am truly enjoying it.

    P.S. Thanks for the link. Yorkie's baseline setups video helped put things in perspective for me. ;):)
     

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