Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

I've been away for all of these ffb developments for the t300 and have to say after 1.5 hrs of hot lapping at brands hatch -and I'm not sure what i missed through all these growing pains- I'd like to pass my congrats to the various contributors...especially slapshot82 for posting his car files a couple pages back. My session was all Ultima and agree with slapshot82's approach to one car track combo to get the senses fully engaged. Thanks for making this game feel remarkably good as anything guys! Ive not the gold standard experience of Ams or RF2 to compare off, but from the many other titles and over many many moons I've dabbled in sim racing titles this ranks on the podium of all-time favourites.

Headed over to the Multiplayer thread to see what's up with that??!!

Great work community!!!

 

Hi @Karsten Hvidberg, just reporting that the 'pull-to-right' happened again recently, using v6.6.5..9.9.9 low-end, while running the Opala Old stock (not 79 / 86) at Goiania External. Server was on auto-pits, so pull happens as soon as car passes the line from the garage. It was fine in a previous MP w/ the same car (but another track). Bringing it back to Default restores the wheel.

 

yes, same for me but while driving, not at pit exit, at azure. One time only, switched to default then back to custom while on track and all went ok. on 6.5.9.9.9

 

You're welcome and I'm glad the files are useful. Just a note about the one file/per car approach is that it is an approach that is good if you only run a small number of cars, as managing a large number of files after updates can be very tedious and time consuming work.

Do give the latest "Low End" Silver Raw series files a try too, as they are very good baseline files to work from across a wide variety of cars. If you tweak a file in for a specific car, just save it out separate for later use and you're good to go.

@tUMi Brands is a track that it's been a long time since I had it really dialed in, but you had to put a WR time in the Ultima GTR, so I'm going to see how close I can get to you. That's a very quick time indeed! Great job!

As for the difference in the previous SR files, @Karsten Hvidberg made some big changes to the files and then dialed it in perfectly. The way the file reacted on the DD wheel bases compared to the belt drive bases was quite radically different, especially in regards to the wheel resistance as the load moves around the car. He nailed it though!

 

Which is recommended for my Fanatec CSW v2,5. I see a lowend wheel file and a DD variant. In former versions I had to choose the DD/high end file. But is this changed with the latest silver raw file? I recal the naming of the DD folder was different, something like “highend wheelbase and DD.”
I now only see a DD folder and LowEndWheel folder.

 

There are 3 Folders in the latest .zip file. DDWheelBases, HighEndWheelBases and LowerEndWheelBases. I use the file in the HighEndWheelBases Folder, and tweak it a bit to suit what I like.

 

That is strange,
I downloaded the latest silver raw version but after extracting it contains 2 folders.
Will take a look in the zip file to see if there went something wrong with extracting.
But yeah that is what I meant. DD, HighEnd and LowEnd. I only see the DD and LowEnd folder. No sign of the HighEnd folder.

EDIT: Found the problem. 7Zip did not extracted the HighEnd Folder. Extracted again and now I have 3 folders indeed.

 

Thank you! To be honest with you I wasn't really expecting to achieve a WR time when I started my time trial session with the Ultima GTR Race on Brands Hatch GP. At first I had to spend some time to get used to the car on that track and in the beginning it felt quite challenging to score good enough lap time to even get to the top10 list in the leaderboards. I gradually got myself dialed in to the car and managed to score the 5th place in the leaderboards with a lap time of 1:21.282.

Few hours later with some good practise I managed to improve my lap time even further and clocked 1:21.000 which was good enough to score the 3rd place in the leaderboards. After this I started to think: "Why not go for a WR next?"

My WR lap was actually quite interesting: on my lap I was behind the previous WR lap holder on sectors 1 & 2 but I was flying on sector 3 and eventually on the finish line I beat the previous WR lap holder by only 0.002 seconds. What a great feeling that was!

I'd suggest you to give it a go yourself, this car is real blast to drive on Brands and the latest Silver Raw file really suits to this car. It will be interesting to see how close can you get to my lap time.

 

The best way is the try them both and see what suites your wheel best. With that said, just from what I've gathered from feedback and comments this is what I would recommend per wheel base:

• DD: "DD" or "high end"
  
• Fanatec: "high end" (not sure if the CSW is an exception and benefits from the "low end" file???)
  
• Thrustmaster: T300 RS GT and T300 TX or below use "low end"; TS-PC Racer and up use "high end"
  
• Logitech: "low end"

@tUMi Man, I did catch that you beat the WR by 0.002 seconds! That had to be an adrenaline rush, for sure! I've got my Vive up and running again after swapping my OS over to a NVME drive, I ran some TT laps there yesterday in VR and that didn't go so well. I'm going to swap over to my usual flat screen today and see if I can put down a better time.

For me, I've run the short track layout so much in iRacing that I'm quick on the first two sectors and stay in front of the 10th ghost on the Leader board. I start losing time at Hawthorns and Westfield, and kept dropping my rear left off the track right as I let off the brakes at the turn-in to Sheene Curve, which would blow my lap. It's been years since I've had a proper competitive race on this track layout and dialed it in, so it's a mission to do so again now!

 

@tUMi I went back to my to my 32" monitor and was able to improve my time quite a bit - I'm still a 0.5 second off of your time though. There's time to be gained for sure, I just have to build more consistency with this track layout. I was approx. ~0.2 off your WR time going into Sheen Curve on one fast lap and went very high risk to try and get ahead of you there. I went in just a bit too deep and had to lift when when car pushed wide and my left side tires pushed onto the grass. Had I not done that I think it's likely I could have taken the 5th place spot, but yeah, blew that one.



If anyone is interested, I dialed in the Silver Raw v6.6.5.9.9.9.9 file for the Ultima GTR for the T300 RS. All TM driver settings are default and in-game settings are 70/35/50.

 

@Slapshot82 That's a very decent lap time you got there. If you keep practising more, I think you have a good chance to beat my WR. Nicely done, mate, you are close already.

I still have some room left for improvements to my WR lap time. I have already managed to do a few tenths quicker sector times on sectors 1 & 3, but haven't managed yet to complete my lap successfully with those sector time improvements. I will try to improve my WR lap time in the near future.

 

The camaro and to some extent the ultima gtr are a pain in the backside to drive, for me and some other people i hear on the forum
I will try your custom ffb to see if it makes any difference

 

You gain on me in Turn 1 every lap - I just can't get the car to carry the speed your taking into the corner there, even with a more aggressive car setup. I can consistently gain on your time up to Stirlings and Clearways. You're getting the car rotated through these corners very quickly and leave me behind - it's a super fast lap! Great job!!!

I did get a little bit closer....


@Nolive721 I think you are possibly mistaking the Ultima GTR for the road car edition of the Ultima, which is in the same class as the Camero SS. With those cars, try increasing the negative rear toe to reduce the oversteer and you should find they are much better to drive. I've set a few world record times in that edition of the Ultima (if they still stand).

 

Nice improvement on your lap time. I think I will need to try to improve my WR lap time soon, hopefully during this week, you just gave me some inspiration for that...

 

@Slapshot82 "high end" is a really good job, congratulations! I just want to ask you one thing: is it possible to eliminate the straight effects that the FFB produces? I would like it smoother, is there a parameter to change?
thank you

 

I've not helped with the "high end" file -- all credit goes to @Karsten Hvidberg, @F.Santos @Shadak & @tUMi there (and anyone else I may have missed!). Of course, the "low end" file is absolutely what it is because of them too!

I usually adjust this in-game by reducing the "LFB" setting, but that isn't always the best method. You can also apply smoothing to the harshness of the effects individually by adjusting the (bumps_lfb_harshness) & (details_lfb_harshness) too. The lower the number, the more smoothing is applied -- try dropping it to 0.3 first, and then adjust from there if needed. This will take the edge off of the effect(s) overall, but it's most noticeable to me on the straights.

 

thanks, i will try as you say.

 

If that doesn't work to your liking, if you'll provide some feedback as to exactly what changed and didn't work, I'll see if there is something else we can do.

 

tried to set 0.3 as you said and it looks better, but there are still too many fx, especially when you steer left and right (for example warming the tires) there is a slight clipping, the steering wheel does not feel smooth. the road surface is also very present as fx, I would like to eliminate the too much information that the steering wheel produces.
thank you for your interest.

 

using the silver raw version 6659999 with a DD2 can anybody suggest what setting in the file would tighten up the centre of the wheel .
It doesn't feel solid and on the straights, it feels loose as if it is wandering - if that's the right way of saying it .