Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Elcid43

    Elcid43 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hello,

    I renamed the file with .Txt but I don't know if it actually did anything, does this look right?

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  2. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hey Elcid,

    You'll have to enable extensions to be displayed in the windows & then make sure the full filename is "ffb_custom_settings.txt".
     
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  3. Elcid43

    Elcid43 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Had to do a little Google search as I am not the most computer savvy but BINGO, that was it. File was named.txt twice!

    And, boy, feels so much better now on my dd wheel.

    Thank you very much
     
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  4. Chip

    Chip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Karsten Hvidberg Thank you so much for continuing to refine the FFB! Can you please share your latest in-game and True Drive settings that you are using with Silver Raw 6.6.5.9.9.9.9 - Momentum Rack 4.4? I just want to start from the same place you are. Additionally, if anyone else is using the Simucube 2 and Silver Raw 6.6.5.9.9.9.9 - Momentum Rack 4.4, can you please share your settings? Thanks!
     
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    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hey Chip, sure:

    TrueDrive:

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    In game:

    Gain: Depends on car, but in general:
    - High down-force: ~20-30%
    - More normal cars: ~35-45%
    LFB: 0-10, depending on my mood 8)
    Fx: 50%
     
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  6. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Karsten Hvidberg .... at this moment i use with my g920 the last Silver raw - Momentum Rack 4.4 v 6.6.5.9.9.9.9 (LowerEnd) with this value 90-15-85 .... is really a big improvement ... I no longer have the shocks and inconsistencies of previous versions ... thank you so much for your work ;)
     
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  7. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Karsten Hvidberg ..Is there a particular line that will really improve the LARGE hits, like running straight over a "sausage" or high kerb? I like how pretty much everything feels in the latest 6.6.5.9.9.9.9 file apart from those big hits. I have increased LFB, but doesn't really accentuate the big hit. Thanks, and keep up the great work. You guys are incredible.
     
  8. Chip

    Chip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Karsten Hvidberg and @Shadak : I concur. This latest 6.6.5.9.9.9.9 file is the pinnacle! Now, the only problem is going to be me resisting the temptation to check this thread for further updates! haha. I need to focus now on the racing aspect, the FFB is more than good enough thanks to you two :D
     
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  9. fozzdigg

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    :):)I've been away for all of these ffb developments for the t300 and have to say after 1.5 hrs of hot lapping at brands hatch -and I'm not sure what i missed through all these growing pains- I'd like to pass my congrats to the various contributors...especially slapshot82 for posting his car files a couple pages back. My session was all Ultima and agree with slapshot82's approach to one car track combo to get the senses fully engaged. Thanks for making this game feel remarkably good as anything guys! Ive not the gold standard experience of Ams or RF2 to compare off, but from the many other titles and over many many moons I've dabbled in sim racing titles this ranks on the podium of all-time favourites.

    Headed over to the Multiplayer thread to see what's up with that??!!

    Great work community!!!:D:hurrayreiza:
     
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  10. sherpa25

    sherpa25 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi @Karsten Hvidberg, just reporting that the 'pull-to-right' happened again recently, using v6.6.5..9.9.9 low-end, while running the Opala Old stock (not 79 / 86) at Goiania External. Server was on auto-pits, so pull happens as soon as car passes the line from the garage. It was fine in a previous MP w/ the same car (but another track). Bringing it back to Default restores the wheel.
     
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  11. mad maxx

    mad maxx Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    yes, same for me but while driving, not at pit exit, at azure. One time only, switched to default then back to custom while on track and all went ok. on 6.5.9.9.9
     
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  12. Slapshot82

    Slapshot82 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    You're welcome and I'm glad the files are useful. Just a note about the one file/per car approach is that it is an approach that is good if you only run a small number of cars, as managing a large number of files after updates can be very tedious and time consuming work.

    Do give the latest "Low End" Silver Raw series files a try too, as they are very good baseline files to work from across a wide variety of cars. If you tweak a file in for a specific car, just save it out separate for later use and you're good to go. ;)

    @tUMi Brands is a track that it's been a long time since I had it really dialed in, but you had to put a WR time in the Ultima GTR, so I'm going to see how close I can get to you. That's a very quick time indeed! Great job!

    As for the difference in the previous SR files, @Karsten Hvidberg made some big changes to the files and then dialed it in perfectly. The way the file reacted on the DD wheel bases compared to the belt drive bases was quite radically different, especially in regards to the wheel resistance as the load moves around the car. He nailed it though!
     
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  13. Bull Shark

    Bull Shark "Later has already begun." AMS2 Club Member

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    Which is recommended for my Fanatec CSW v2,5. I see a lowend wheel file and a DD variant. In former versions I had to choose the DD/high end file. But is this changed with the latest silver raw file? I recal the naming of the DD folder was different, something like “highend wheelbase and DD.”
    I now only see a DD folder and LowEndWheel folder.
     
  14. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    There are 3 Folders in the latest .zip file. DDWheelBases, HighEndWheelBases and LowerEndWheelBases. I use the file in the HighEndWheelBases Folder, and tweak it a bit to suit what I like.
     
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    Bull Shark "Later has already begun." AMS2 Club Member

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    That is strange,
    I downloaded the latest silver raw version but after extracting it contains 2 folders. :eek:
    Will take a look in the zip file to see if there went something wrong with extracting.
    But yeah that is what I meant. DD, HighEnd and LowEnd. I only see the DD and LowEnd folder. No sign of the HighEnd folder.

    EDIT: Found the problem. 7Zip did not extracted the HighEnd Folder. Extracted again and now I have 3 folders indeed. :D
     
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  16. tUMi

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    Thank you! To be honest with you I wasn't really expecting to achieve a WR time when I started my time trial session with the Ultima GTR Race on Brands Hatch GP. At first I had to spend some time to get used to the car on that track and in the beginning it felt quite challenging to score good enough lap time to even get to the top10 list in the leaderboards. I gradually got myself dialed in to the car and managed to score the 5th place in the leaderboards with a lap time of 1:21.282.

    Few hours later with some good practise I managed to improve my lap time even further and clocked 1:21.000 which was good enough to score the 3rd place in the leaderboards. After this I started to think: "Why not go for a WR next?" :)

    My WR lap was actually quite interesting: on my lap I was behind the previous WR lap holder on sectors 1 & 2 but I was flying on sector 3 and eventually on the finish line I beat the previous WR lap holder by only 0.002 seconds. What a great feeling that was! :)

    I'd suggest you to give it a go yourself, this car is real blast to drive on Brands and the latest Silver Raw file really suits to this car. It will be interesting to see how close can you get to my lap time. :)
     
  17. Slapshot82

    Slapshot82 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    The best way is the try them both and see what suites your wheel best. ;) With that said, just from what I've gathered from feedback and comments this is what I would recommend per wheel base:
    • DD: "DD" or "high end"
    • Fanatec: "high end" (not sure if the CSW is an exception and benefits from the "low end" file???)
    • Thrustmaster: T300 RS GT and T300 TX or below use "low end"; TS-PC Racer and up use "high end"
    • Logitech: "low end"

    @tUMi Man, I did catch that you beat the WR by 0.002 seconds! That had to be an adrenaline rush, for sure! I've got my Vive up and running again after swapping my OS over to a NVME drive, I ran some TT laps there yesterday in VR and that didn't go so well. I'm going to swap over to my usual flat screen today and see if I can put down a better time.

    For me, I've run the short track layout so much in iRacing that I'm quick on the first two sectors and stay in front of the 10th ghost on the Leader board. I start losing time at Hawthorns and Westfield, and kept dropping my rear left off the track right as I let off the brakes at the turn-in to Sheene Curve, which would blow my lap. It's been years since I've had a proper competitive race on this track layout and dialed it in, so it's a mission to do so again now! :D
     
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  18. Slapshot82

    Slapshot82 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @tUMi I went back to my to my 32" monitor and was able to improve my time quite a bit - I'm still a 0.5 second off of your time though. There's time to be gained for sure, I just have to build more consistency with this track layout. I was approx. ~0.2 off your WR time going into Sheen Curve on one fast lap and went very high risk to try and get ahead of you there. I went in just a bit too deep and had to lift when when car pushed wide and my left side tires pushed onto the grass. Had I not done that I think it's likely I could have taken the 5th place spot, but yeah, blew that one. :oops:

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    If anyone is interested, I dialed in the Silver Raw v6.6.5.9.9.9.9 file for the Ultima GTR for the T300 RS. All TM driver settings are default and in-game settings are 70/35/50.
     

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  19. tUMi

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    @Slapshot82 That's a very decent lap time you got there. If you keep practising more, I think you have a good chance to beat my WR. Nicely done, mate, you are close already. :)

    I still have some room left for improvements to my WR lap time. I have already managed to do a few tenths quicker sector times on sectors 1 & 3, but haven't managed yet to complete my lap successfully with those sector time improvements. I will try to improve my WR lap time in the near future. :)
     
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  20. Nolive721

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    The camaro and to some extent the ultima gtr are a pain in the backside to drive, for me and some other people i hear on the forum
    I will try your custom ffb to see if it makes any difference
     

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