50 rating points lost for having to leave a race!!

Gees, that's huge penalty!!! Especially when grinding 5-10 points per races... I was at 1731 then now 1680. The higher the rating, the longer it takes to get higher. Can we tone that down a little? I understand you want motivate people to stay in a race, but this appears to be extreme.

 

I believe it is how ELO works, it is not a problem of the system itself. The problem is that AMS2 player pool is too insignificant, so you probably find yourself racing against much lower rated drivers, and leaving for whatever reason (rage quit, connection issues, being kicked) will heavily harm your high rating.

Anyway, I think only you and about 10 other guys care about AMS2 MP rating. They are not used for anything I know of. In fact, not only they are not used for anything, it is suspected that having MP rating enabled causes lag issues.

 

Thanks, your explanation makes a lot of sense.

Having a competitive element like a rating, raises the bar, forces focus, etc... but since most lobby cannot afford to "group" rating range together with similar rated people, it creates really f-up lobbies with extremely serious people and pure morons purposely crashing into people... People who take their Sim Racing very seriously, likes having a rating system, especially when we can have scheduled races with a minimum required rating (like iRacing).

If I recall correctly, P2P + rating on = no issues at all where Dedicated Server + Rating On = some lag. One would think it would be the opposite..

 

I'm sorry mate, but if you want competitive online racing, AMS2 is just not the way to go.

Looks like the game is targeted at the casual racer/occasional player market, where messy/uncommitted online lobbies and AI racing are the main ways to play the game.

MP improvements have been made, but they are still shy from the bare minimum for a more dedicated online racing. I'd be surprised if much is going to change in the long term - it is what it is.

 

Thanks @Marius H and @sgsfabiano for this valuable info... Takeaway: I will stay in the race no matter what, even if I'm not sitting in my rig

 

Yes, picking the correct lobby is a true art form; I don't jump in with a few minutes left in Qual, or when I see dozens of people rated near 1000, etc...

FYI - I got screwed on last night (tuesday), was in pole for 30 minutes with 2 laps to go, then BOOM, everyone was disconnected (then I remembered the steam maintenance)

 

We want scheduled races with a min. rating

 

I believe this is correct.
To the best of my knowledge iRacing use the same ELO system an even here you get into trouble if you participate in a race with very low participation.
But because iRacings pool in populated series is much (MUCH ) larger then this ELO system works pretty reasonable.
Hehe at least if you are not one of the drivers with very high rating