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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Kuku Maddog

    Kuku Maddog Well-Known Member

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    @M.Guenette

    Nobody can just tell you which is best, its personally subjective and ultimately up to you to decide.
    But the rfuktor line has always been developed primarily on high end wheels.

    4.6 is considered the peak and then there’s some personal tunes of that.

    Here is a file containing the original rFuktor 4.6 and also my Delta variation of it. V2 is popular and V3 is better for me but waiting on feedback from DD users.
     
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  2. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Active Member Reiza Backer

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    To me, the v3 feels strange. Can't put my finger on exactly why. I have a CSW 2.5 and it seems to have a strange turning, as if there is nothing then it turns. Not like a deadzone though. Like I said, hard for me to explain. I have tried V2, and like it. Just a few tweaks to get it how I like it. Still experimenting. Thanks guys. A whole lot better than default.
     
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  3. Kuku Maddog

    Kuku Maddog Well-Known Member

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    That’s weird..
    It’s tighter or more immediate in sensation of lateral force’s than previous file for me. I was more worried it might be to twitchy for better wheel setups.
    What where your in game settings and what car did you try it with.

    does it help if you increase the centering strength to 0.52 ?
    (centering (blend (- 1 trail_strength_feel) 0.52 0.5))
     
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  4. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Active Member Reiza Backer

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    I tried a few cars, SC 2021, GT3, GT1, FV10, FV12 to name a few. Will try again later. My In-Game settings are Gain 27 - 30, LFB 0 - 5, FX 35 - 38 and Damping 0 - 5 I normally run that line, (centering (blend (- 1 trail_strength_feel) 0.52 0.5)) at 40 ish
     
  5. Kuku Maddog

    Kuku Maddog Well-Known Member

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    I would suggest running higher gain, to the point where it’s weighted nicely at low load, then you can utilise power steering to limit the high load force’s. It will vary from car to car, there’s a few cars that seem strangely light in force lately. I’ve just tried the Copa Montana, and it really weak.
     
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  6. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member

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    A strange thing happened to me ... I launch the game and everything is ok ... I close the game and find an AMS2 update in Steam (no info, no new version in Steam).
    I open the Reiza forum ... here too no communication ...I relaunch the game and start a race ... the Custom FFB is completely gone (the keys, direction and gears work but the force and vibrations are zero), the Default ffb is OK ... re-calibrate but nothing to do, I delete the documents folder/Automobilista2, I reset everything, but nothing works when i copy the FFB file ... o_O

    SOMEONE CHECK IF THE STEAM DETECTS UPDATES AND CONFIRMS THAT MY FFB FILES WORK?

    I HOPE IT WAS ONLY ONE OF MY EXPERIENCE ON MY PC AND I WOULD ALREADY FOUND THE SOLUTION BUT I WOULD LIKE YOUR CONFIRMATION THAT THE LATEST FILES UPLOADED BY ME ON THE FORUM DO NOT GENERATE ANY DISCOMFORT TO YOU ... ;)

    THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
     
  7. Kuku Maddog

    Kuku Maddog Well-Known Member

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    That sounds like the doom check function kicking in .
    Will check in a little while.

    edit, seems ok at my end, no updates either.
     
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  8. Manolo

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    Here all is ok @Stakanov ... no problem with FFB ;) ... but I also got an update with no info ... o_O
     
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  9. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member

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    OK Confirm ... IS ALL OK WITH THE FILE FFB ON THE FORUM ;)

    The problem was only for me and on my pc, because i am trying to tune the karts in a decent way (it will take some time) ... i was trying to see if it made sense to manage the flatspot effect in karts and this created the problem ...

    (flatspots_scale (if isKart 0.01 flatspots_scale))

    I HAVE FORGOTTEN THE LAST CLOSING PARENTHESIS AND THE FILE WAS WRONG IN THE
    COHERENZE .... SORRY IF I DISTURBED YOU ... BETTER BE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS OK FOR YOU!!!

    BUT IS STRANGE THIS GHOST UPDATE ... NOW LANCH THE GAME AND THE WHEEL FFB IS LOAD ... GO FIRST OF RACE AND THE WHEEL FFB IS FLAT ... START WITH RACE AND ALL IS OK AND FFB IS LOAD ... IF I REMENBER CORRECT, FIRST IS ALWAYS LOAD FROM START GAME AND TO THE RACE OR NO???
     
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  10. M.Guenette

    M.Guenette Member Reiza Backer

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    Thank You Kuku Maddog !

    I will try this out this evening .
     
  11. Kuku Maddog

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    Have you tried what i did with Kart section ?
    # Kart adjustments
    #

    (isKart (if (min 0 (- steer_ratio 6)) 1 0))
    (master_rack (if isKart 1.0 master_rack))
    (master_road (if isKart 1.5 master_road))
    (center_relax (if isKart 0.5 center_relax))
    (rack_friction (if isKart 0.5 rack_friction))
    (vel_rot_scale (if isKart 1.5 vel_rot_scale))
    (vel_rot_limit_coef (if isKart 2.0 vel_rot_limit_coef))
    (accel_feel (if isKart 0.0 accel_feel))
    (front_tyre_stretch_feel (if isKart 0.12 front_tyre_stretch_feel))
    (rear_tyre_stretch_feel (if isKart 0.3 rear_tyre_stretch_feel))
    (texture_scale (if isKart 0.35 texture_scale))
     
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  12. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member

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    Interesting @Kuku Maddog , all much more predictable and manageable, for me it is an excellent starting point, the Logitech is certainly softer and more elastic but starting from the your values is very helpful to me. Thanks!!! ;)
     
  13. Kuku Maddog

    Kuku Maddog Well-Known Member

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    well those are the only lines of Kart depending code i’ve got. i scrapped the rest as just adds another layer of complexity and didn’t seem to be in line with the natural physics of the sim.
    i don’t drive karts in game by preference, but when i might randomly. i just want it to feel familiar.
     
  14. AndreiC

    AndreiC Active Member Reiza Backer

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    This should be added to the custom file to help people setting their proper values for their wheels!

    "does it help if you increase the centering strength to 0.52 ?"
    Yes this helps quite a bit, your file is now the most natural ffb in AMS2. It allows me to feel the cars the best so far.
    Great job mate! Thx again!
     
  15. Kuku Maddog

    Kuku Maddog Well-Known Member

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    good feedback
    Reading on ph so no signature, why wheel did you have again ?

    I’m still thinking i might need to make high and low end files.
    i really struggling to get good strength from all cars in game at default static force values.
    think it’s better on t300 with normal static force removal at 0.05 etc.
    I don’t get why there’s so much variation in strength between some cars.
     
  16. AndreiC

    AndreiC Active Member Reiza Backer

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    Also T300Rs but I do not know why you cannot see my gear in the signature.
     

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    Kuku Maddog Well-Known Member

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    the signature doesn’t get shownwhen viewing on my phone ( maybe something to do with screen size , but it’s normal) .
     
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  18. Chip

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    @Kuku Maddog Definitely keen to try out any high-end version you produce of your V3 Delta Tune. I can try to tune it as well, but would need some guidance on which lines of code to focus on. I'm not sure if that would just end up taking more time than you taking a stab at it yourself though.

    Also, I hate that mobile/phone version of this site doesn't show signatures! For those browsing on mobile (and for your reference as well Kulu), I have the Simucube 2 Pro if you are curious.
     
  19. Kuku Maddog

    Kuku Maddog Well-Known Member

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    The main thing to change is the centering strength mentioned above, but depending on what you feel it might need more or less of , the file does feature some guidance .
    Any scale that’s been altered has a different number outside of the brackets, this number is the number it was as standard in the original.

    so outside of centering and damper being quite different, most are only minor changes .
    There’s a couple of smoothing lines that could be taken back to stock too, but generally increasing fx would negate them .

    the most useful information I need to gleam from DD users is , is the any oscillation problems and is the reaction to oversteer and yaw too immediate.
     
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    Phones need to be held in landscape position to see signatures.
     
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