Automobilista 2 V1.6.8 FFB default/default+ settings - What do you run?

So with 1.6.8 out i want to try out the default and default+ settings again

I got the Fanatec CSW 2.5 with the Mclaren GT3 wheel

What settings do you use ingame?

 

I have the same wheelbase & wheel as you, AllokDK: Fanatec ClubSport CSW 2.5 (7.5Nm belt-driven) with McLaren GT3 mk.1 wheel

I usually run Default profile, but with some vehicles where I need to feel more of the rear I go for Default+. It should also be said that Default+ is the profile that Reiza themselves regard as the "calibration standard", and that Default is not yet calibrated perfectly with all vehicles.

Fanatec wheelbase settings:
SEN: Auto
FFB: 100
DRI: OFF (-1 or -2 can also work, but won't prevent the wheel from oscillating if you let go)
FEI: 60
FOR: 100
SPR: 100
DPR: OFF
BLI: OFF
MPS: PULSE
BRF: MIN (I have the CSP inverted v3 load cell pedals, I find that MIN makes trailbraking easier)

AMS2 settings:
Gain: 45 (with individual adjustments pr. vehicle)
Low Force Boost: 50
FX: 50
Damping: 25 (this setting should be tuned last)
Menu Spring Strength: 12

My FFB calibration track is Oulton Park International.
I start by calibrating for the Supercars Ultima GTR Road, then I check the Caterham 620R, Formula Classic Gen4 Model3, SuperV8, and Superkart.

 

I also have a CSW 2.5, but I don't have INT or MPS options. I assume INT is equivalent to FEI? No idea what MPS is. Is this something they've added with the new drivers? I stuck with the last legacy drivers.

 

Oops, INT is from a very old firmware version (I didn't erase it from my signature before I copied my settings from there). It is indeed FEI. I will edit my previous post.

I haven't done anything to my Fanatec drivers for the last 3 years (driver v442). I could never get Fanalab to work, so I'm simply adjusting on my wheel menu.

This is what my wheel menu says:
SEN=Sensitivity (rotational angle), FFB=F.feedb (gain), DRI=Drift m. (inverted resistance), FEI=F.eff.int (grain), FOR=force (I think this is only used by older games), SPR=Spring (I think this is only used by older games), DPR=Damper (unsure, maybe also only used by older games), BLI=Brk.lvl (vibration threshold on brake pedal), MPS=Mps fnc (I think it's the multiposition switches on the McLaren GT3 wheel), BRF=Brakef. (brake sensitivity)

 

These are my CSW 2.5 settings:
SEN auto
FFB 100
DRI -1
FEI 80
FOR 100
SPR OFF
DPR OFF

Ingame I am still trying to find my best settings, but this gives a range:
Gain: 40-50
Low Force Boost: 3
FX: 25-50 (trying to find my optimum)
Damping: 1-5

Aside from this I also really liked DanielKart Topspeed files with some tweaking suggestions from him for our difficult inbetween wheelbase

 

Before AMS2 v.1.6.8, LFB=3 was a sensible value, as higher values created a notch in the center. But now, it's safe to experiment with higher LFB if you want.

 

So it makes even sense with higher NM bases/settings? Where did you find this guidance/info on the new/revised FFB?

 

There is no official guidance, this is just results of my trial-and-error during beta testing. It took around half a year for the new revised FFB profiles to be ironed out and release-ready, plenty of time to experiment.

Low Force Boost is primarily there to overcome the noise floor of gear-driven and belt-driven wheelbases. It doesn't have as much to do with maximum output, rather what the minimum force is needed to overcome the noise floor of the wheelbase. Belt-driven wheelbases are closer to direct drive wheelbases than gear-driven wheelbases, but there is still some benefit to using Low Force Boost to make small details more noticeable.

 

Default+
Gain 45
Damp 30
FX 50

Moza R12
100% wheel rotation, Road effects at 5. Nothing else in terms of added dampers or filters.

 

I use Default, however with recent Moza updates my R9's settings have been reset and I need to tweak everything again to get it how I like it. I never got the opportunity to try one or the other before they had both been updated.

That being said, having tried both Default and Default+ I still prefer Default in 1.6.8 even with my currently messed-up settings.

 

I fiddled with both for a few hours but ended up with stock custom/basic again. May lacks some info the others provide and less uniform between the cars but its fluid and natural.
Alpha mini, simpro: 100% strength, 50 wheel rotation speed, everything else off.
Default: 55 gain, 0 lfb, 20 fx, 5 damping
Default+: 55 gain, 0 lfb, 10 fx, 5 damping
Basic: 75 gain, 15 lfb, 0 fx, 0 damping

 

Ok so managed to jump back into AMS2 today with my Moza settings feeling 'right' again.

Had a couple of drives and I might now be leaning towards Default+ but I need to do some more racing in a few different cars as I only used the 992 GT3. I managed to match my Bathurst record on the second lap, so that's good - I'm getting back up to pace.

Hardware: Moza R9 V1 with CS V1 and GS V1 (Most often using CS as I prefer it for H-pattern and conventional sequential e.g., Super V8 and GT1)

Moza settings:
Basic:
Steering Angle 900, synchronous
Soft limit stiffness 1, limit strength hard
FFB Intensity 100%
Maximum Output Torque Limit 100%
Reversal off, Hands-Off protection off
Maximum wheel speed 100%

Advanced:
FFB Interpolation 0
Natural Damping 15%
Natural Friction 10%
Natural Inertia 100%
Wheel Spring Strength 0%
DirectInput Effect Tuning (Defaults): 100, 50, 50, 50, 0, 0
Radical temperature control
FFB Effect Equalizer default flat curve at 100% (I'll tweak this when I find problems to fine-tune)
Base FFB Curve is linear except for a minor dip near the bottom which I think was to reduce oscillation in menus


In-game:
Gain: 63%
FX: 20%
LFB: 0%
Damping: 0%

 

Thats a 8 month old video and dont answer my question about what people use…..

 

@Marc Collins are you still using the same settings as those in the video or did you change some after the last update?

 

I agree that some LFB is useful, but 50 is rather high and I feel it may be crowding out some of the basic rack effects you want to feel as well (instead of those lower track/engine vibrations etc). I wonder what other people with belt/gear bases use after the last update.

 

Well yesterday I tried the default + and the default setting and I have noticed that the default the better one is to feel the limits of grip and understeer, I got more info instead of the + version, I’m happy with the default version.

 

I was running LFB 7 on AMS2 versions before v1.6.8, then during the beta testing I upped it to LFB 20, but now after release I upped it to LFB 50. Nothing wrong with using lower LFB value if you prefer that.

One way to think of it now in v1.6.8 is that Default gives you most info about the front, while Default+ gives you most info about the rear. Although in reality it's more nuanced than that.
Technically, I think it's still the case that Default+ is "The same as Default but with added FX and rear traction loss sensation".

Reiza themselves use Default+, so in my view the main reason to use Default instead would be if you feel like Default+ is "too much" or if you want to focus more on the front feel.

 

The point of the video is not to use other people's settings. Use a proper process to set your own and be happy

 

There is no need to change settings after the latest FFB update. If you have followed a proper process to set them in the first place, they should remain (with perhaps a slight change to Gain and/or FX being all I could imagine).

I think a bunch of people are trying a different profile for the first time in a while...and hadn't set it up correctly in the first place. Or, the new default profiles are revealing that the settings are not optimal.

When this happens, you can try to copy someone else's settings or learn how to set your own and understand what each slider actually does...no need to repeat what my advice suggests is the better path